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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by T. 4/9/2021, 23:31
'Novost' je da je kmica na čelu who jedini predsjednik te organizacije u povijesti koji nije dr.med...
Lik je bivši terorist kojega je pogurao luđak schwab...
#slušajstruku
Lik je bivši terorist kojega je pogurao luđak schwab...
#slušajstruku
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by T. 4/9/2021, 23:38
A vi i dalje raspravljajte o sojevima...
Koje 'otkriva' onaj isti pcr test od prije skoro 2 godine...
Koje 'otkriva' onaj isti pcr test od prije skoro 2 godine...
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by veber 4/9/2021, 23:38
kolega.
švabiše je tak užasan jezik kao da dođeš u međimurje kod erinih.
užas.
recimo gestern izgovaraju s dva Š, geeešššternnn. pride vele, valjda alah ekbar kabuuuum.
užas od jezika.
švabiše je tak užasan jezik kao da dođeš u međimurje kod erinih.
užas.
recimo gestern izgovaraju s dva Š, geeešššternnn. pride vele, valjda alah ekbar kabuuuum.
užas od jezika.
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by Guest 5/9/2021, 00:06
ja ovome ne vjerujem. subota večer je, plavusha sigurno partija negdi s doktorima, sutra kad se otrijezni ćemo znat pravo stanje.Gnječ wrote:
Dr. Kobi Haviv, Director of Jerusalem Hospital
Watch in full screen so you can read the subtitles.
‘Vaccinated account for 95% of severe Covid hospitalizations. Vaccine effectiveness is fading.’
Vaccine data goes from bad to worse…
a slovenski bosanac ionak ne zna engleski pa će natrkeljat nekaj o "genijalnim" umovima i noćima kad su radili bez plaće i sad se taj rad napokon vidi.
najbolje stvari dođu besplatno, kaže on.
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by kaya 5/9/2021, 00:09
Ja sam primjetila da ti luđaci stranci ne idu doma nego i dalje dolaze. Jel oni misle ljetovati do 1.12 ili što?michaellcmacha wrote:k nami ovih dana dolazi prvi kontigent od ukupno 3000 slovenaca, 90% penzići, budu brali grožđe, smokve, masline i tako do 15.10. ove godineEroo wrote:U DU i dalje gužva.
Ipak su se dobro snašli u ovom ludilu.
Hvala Stožeru i Plenkiju, dobro su ovo odradili ...i simpatičnoj ministrici turizma, naravno.
https://www.livecamcroatia.com/hr/kamera/dubrovnik-stradun-hd-okretna-kamera
Do sada su do 1.9 otišli doma a sada dolaze..
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by veber 5/9/2021, 00:15
nemreš bilivit.kaya wrote:Ja sam primjetila da ti luđaci stranci ne idu doma nego i dalje dolaze. Jel oni misle ljetovati do 1.12 ili što?michaellcmacha wrote:k nami ovih dana dolazi prvi kontigent od ukupno 3000 slovenaca, 90% penzići, budu brali grožđe, smokve, masline i tako do 15.10. ove godineEroo wrote:U DU i dalje gužva.
Ipak su se dobro snašli u ovom ludilu.
Hvala Stožeru i Plenkiju, dobro su ovo odradili ...i simpatičnoj ministrici turizma, naravno.
https://www.livecamcroatia.com/hr/kamera/dubrovnik-stradun-hd-okretna-kamera
Do sada su do 1.9 otišli doma a sada dolaze..
tebe se sjetio.
ali kaj se tiče turista. pola ih je otišlo za hrvatsku.
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by veber 5/9/2021, 00:21
e, i da nadodam. nadam se da će zeleni dobiti izbore.
ne mogu napraviti veće sranje od sranja koje je merkelica napravila.
a jedan od argumenata im je micanje maski i kompletno otvaranje.
ne mogu napraviti veće sranje od sranja koje je merkelica napravila.
a jedan od argumenata im je micanje maski i kompletno otvaranje.
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by T. 5/9/2021, 00:27
Ako tako kažu, treba im vjerovati...veber wrote:e, i da nadodam. nadam se da će zeleni dobiti izbore.
ne mogu napraviti veće sranje od sranja koje je merkelica napravila.
a jedan od argumenata im je micanje maski i kompletno otvaranje.
Ipak su to političari...
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by veber 5/9/2021, 00:31
kolega, mislim da ću malo u lov.
ruse sve više poštujem.
još kss vele da su srbi stoka i šupci, odmah mi se leptirići ispod srca jave.
ruse sve više poštujem.
još kss vele da su srbi stoka i šupci, odmah mi se leptirići ispod srca jave.
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by veber 5/9/2021, 00:33
a, općenito ruska zajednica smatra srblje drugim razredom, šupcima i pogjebuljama.
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by Guest 5/9/2021, 02:28
What Will Segregated Society Look Like for the Unvaxxed?
No Jab, No Food
Some are promoting even more severe punishment for the unvaccinated. Yet, it’s not enough for some thought leaders that unvaccinated individuals can’t enter a bar or restaurant, and might lose their ability to send or receive money for goods and services using PayPal (and potentially other digital transaction services).
For example, CNN anchor Don Lemon recently suggested unvaccinated people ought to be barred from buying food and have their driver’s license taken away.13,14Why is fascism so commonly associated with genocide …? It is because it needs a unifying force powerful enough to sweep aside all resistance. ~ Charles Eisenstein
I’d like you to conduct a thought experiment, and think this through from start to finish. What would your life be like if you were:
1. Barred from driving
2. Barred from working and earning a paycheck
3. Barred from sending or receiving money online
4. Barred from having a bank account and credit card
5. Barred from eating food at a restaurant (assuming you somehow got the cash to pay for it)
6. Barred from buying food in a grocery store (again, assuming you somehow got the cash to pay for it)
Are Lemon and countless others actually saying it is acceptable to make half the U.S. population homeless and starve them to death in order to, theoretically, prevent the spread of an infection that, so far, has had a 99.74% survival rate?
Mob Morality
To understand what’s really happening and what Lemon’s rhetoric is accomplishing, I highly recommend reading Charles Eisenstein’s article “Mob Morality and the Unvaxxed.” It’s an excellent and thought-provoking piece. Here’s a few chosen excerpts:
“We would like to think that modern societies like ours have outgrown barbaric customs like human sacrifice … we don’t actually kill people in hopes of placating the gods and restoring order. Or do we? …
Not just any victim will do as an object of human sacrifice. Victims must be, as [legal scholar Roberta] Harding puts it, ‘in, but not of, the society.’ That is why, during the Black Death, mobs roamed about murdering Jews for ‘poisoning the wells.’
The entire Jewish population of Basel was burned alive, a scene repeated throughout Western Europe. Yet this was not mainly the result of preexisting virulent hatred of Jews waiting for an excuse to erupt; it was that victims were needed to release social tension, and hatred, an instrument of that release, coalesced opportunistically on the Jews …
‘Combatting hatred’ is combatting a symptom. Scapegoats needn’t be guilty, but they must be marginal, outcasts, heretics, taboo-breakers, or infidels of one kind or another … If they are not already marginal, they must be made so …
[D]efying left-right categorization is a promising new scapegoat class, the heretics of our time: the anti-vaxxers. As a readily identifiable subpopulation, they are ideal candidates for scapegoating. It matters little whether any of these pose a real threat to society … their guilt is irrelevant to the project of restoring order through blood sacrifice …
All that is necessary is that the dehumanized class arouse the blind indignation and rage necessary to incite a paroxysm of unifying violence. More relevant to current times, this primal mob energy can be harnessed toward fascistic political ends …
Sacrificial subjects carry an association of pollution or contagion; their removal thus cleanses society. I know people in the alternative health field who are considered so unclean that if I so much as mention their names in a Tweet or Facebook post, the post may be deleted …
The public’s ready acceptance of such blatant censorship cannot be explained solely in terms of its believing the pretext of ‘controlling misinformation.’ Unconsciously, the public recognizes and conforms to the age-old program of investing a pariah subclass with the symbology of pollution …
This program is well underway toward the Covid-unvaxxed, who are being portrayed as walking cesspools of germs who might contaminate the Sanctified Brethren (the vaccinated).
My wife perused an acupuncture Facebook page today … where someone asked, ‘What is the word that comes to mind to describe unvaccinated people?’ The responses were things like ‘filth,’ ‘assholes,’ and ‘death-eaters.’ This is precisely the dehumanization necessary to prepare a class of people for cleansing …
To prepare someone for removal as the repository of all that is evil, it helps to heap upon them every imaginable calumny. Thus we hear in mainstream publications that anti-vaxxers not only are killing people, but are raging narcissists … and tantamount to domestic terrorists.”
Dangerous Territory Ahead
If deep down in your gut you sense that we’re speeding into dangerous territory, you’re probably right. The “vaccinated” public are actively encouraged and manipulated both by media and government officials into literally despising and wishing death upon the unvaccinated, and this is indeed a very dangerous thing. It breeds mob mentality devoid of reason and logic, which can have tragic consequences.
“Why is fascism so commonly associated with genocide, when as a political philosophy it is about unity, nationalism, and the merger of corporate and state power?” Eisenstein asks.17
“It is because it needs a unifying force powerful enough to sweep aside all resistance. The us of fascism requires a them. The civic-minded moral majority participates willingly, assured that it is for the greater good. Something must be done. The doubters go along too, for their own safety.
No wonder today’s authoritarian institutions know, as if instinctively, to whip up hysteria toward the … unvaccinated. Fascism taps into, exploits, and institutionalizes a deeper instinct.
The practice of creating dehumanized classes of people and then murdering them is older than history … The campaign against the unvaccinated, garbed in the white lab coat of Science, munitioned with biased data, and waving the pennant of altruism, channels a brutal, ancient impulse.”
The Constitution still offers some measure of protection in the United States, but it may be naïve to assume it will be adhered to in the long term unless we the people demand it. In Australia, military are now roaming the streets of Sydney to make sure no one strays beyond their front door, as the country has implemented one of its strictest lockdowns yet.
Fanning the flames of anger and hatred, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has stated that vaccinated Australians might be able to regain some of their mobility once the vaccination rate reaches 70%, and broad lockdowns may be avoidable altogether if the vaccination rate hits 80%.
“If you get vaccinated, there will be special rules that apply to you,” Morrison told reporters. “Why? Because if you’re vaccinated, you present less of a public health risk.”
A rational person might question whether Morrison would actually hold true to his word. A person blinded by anger probably won’t, but will instead direct their frustration onto the holdouts that prevent the vaccination rate from reaching that magical threshold where they believe freedom will be restored.
https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/p/mob-morality-and-the-unvaxxed
No Jab, No Food
Some are promoting even more severe punishment for the unvaccinated. Yet, it’s not enough for some thought leaders that unvaccinated individuals can’t enter a bar or restaurant, and might lose their ability to send or receive money for goods and services using PayPal (and potentially other digital transaction services).
For example, CNN anchor Don Lemon recently suggested unvaccinated people ought to be barred from buying food and have their driver’s license taken away.13,14Why is fascism so commonly associated with genocide …? It is because it needs a unifying force powerful enough to sweep aside all resistance. ~ Charles Eisenstein
I’d like you to conduct a thought experiment, and think this through from start to finish. What would your life be like if you were:
1. Barred from driving
2. Barred from working and earning a paycheck
3. Barred from sending or receiving money online
4. Barred from having a bank account and credit card
5. Barred from eating food at a restaurant (assuming you somehow got the cash to pay for it)
6. Barred from buying food in a grocery store (again, assuming you somehow got the cash to pay for it)
Are Lemon and countless others actually saying it is acceptable to make half the U.S. population homeless and starve them to death in order to, theoretically, prevent the spread of an infection that, so far, has had a 99.74% survival rate?
Mob Morality
To understand what’s really happening and what Lemon’s rhetoric is accomplishing, I highly recommend reading Charles Eisenstein’s article “Mob Morality and the Unvaxxed.” It’s an excellent and thought-provoking piece. Here’s a few chosen excerpts:
“We would like to think that modern societies like ours have outgrown barbaric customs like human sacrifice … we don’t actually kill people in hopes of placating the gods and restoring order. Or do we? …
Not just any victim will do as an object of human sacrifice. Victims must be, as [legal scholar Roberta] Harding puts it, ‘in, but not of, the society.’ That is why, during the Black Death, mobs roamed about murdering Jews for ‘poisoning the wells.’
The entire Jewish population of Basel was burned alive, a scene repeated throughout Western Europe. Yet this was not mainly the result of preexisting virulent hatred of Jews waiting for an excuse to erupt; it was that victims were needed to release social tension, and hatred, an instrument of that release, coalesced opportunistically on the Jews …
‘Combatting hatred’ is combatting a symptom. Scapegoats needn’t be guilty, but they must be marginal, outcasts, heretics, taboo-breakers, or infidels of one kind or another … If they are not already marginal, they must be made so …
[D]efying left-right categorization is a promising new scapegoat class, the heretics of our time: the anti-vaxxers. As a readily identifiable subpopulation, they are ideal candidates for scapegoating. It matters little whether any of these pose a real threat to society … their guilt is irrelevant to the project of restoring order through blood sacrifice …
All that is necessary is that the dehumanized class arouse the blind indignation and rage necessary to incite a paroxysm of unifying violence. More relevant to current times, this primal mob energy can be harnessed toward fascistic political ends …
Sacrificial subjects carry an association of pollution or contagion; their removal thus cleanses society. I know people in the alternative health field who are considered so unclean that if I so much as mention their names in a Tweet or Facebook post, the post may be deleted …
The public’s ready acceptance of such blatant censorship cannot be explained solely in terms of its believing the pretext of ‘controlling misinformation.’ Unconsciously, the public recognizes and conforms to the age-old program of investing a pariah subclass with the symbology of pollution …
This program is well underway toward the Covid-unvaxxed, who are being portrayed as walking cesspools of germs who might contaminate the Sanctified Brethren (the vaccinated).
My wife perused an acupuncture Facebook page today … where someone asked, ‘What is the word that comes to mind to describe unvaccinated people?’ The responses were things like ‘filth,’ ‘assholes,’ and ‘death-eaters.’ This is precisely the dehumanization necessary to prepare a class of people for cleansing …
To prepare someone for removal as the repository of all that is evil, it helps to heap upon them every imaginable calumny. Thus we hear in mainstream publications that anti-vaxxers not only are killing people, but are raging narcissists … and tantamount to domestic terrorists.”
Dangerous Territory Ahead
If deep down in your gut you sense that we’re speeding into dangerous territory, you’re probably right. The “vaccinated” public are actively encouraged and manipulated both by media and government officials into literally despising and wishing death upon the unvaccinated, and this is indeed a very dangerous thing. It breeds mob mentality devoid of reason and logic, which can have tragic consequences.
“Why is fascism so commonly associated with genocide, when as a political philosophy it is about unity, nationalism, and the merger of corporate and state power?” Eisenstein asks.17
“It is because it needs a unifying force powerful enough to sweep aside all resistance. The us of fascism requires a them. The civic-minded moral majority participates willingly, assured that it is for the greater good. Something must be done. The doubters go along too, for their own safety.
No wonder today’s authoritarian institutions know, as if instinctively, to whip up hysteria toward the … unvaccinated. Fascism taps into, exploits, and institutionalizes a deeper instinct.
The practice of creating dehumanized classes of people and then murdering them is older than history … The campaign against the unvaccinated, garbed in the white lab coat of Science, munitioned with biased data, and waving the pennant of altruism, channels a brutal, ancient impulse.”
The Constitution still offers some measure of protection in the United States, but it may be naïve to assume it will be adhered to in the long term unless we the people demand it. In Australia, military are now roaming the streets of Sydney to make sure no one strays beyond their front door, as the country has implemented one of its strictest lockdowns yet.
Fanning the flames of anger and hatred, Prime Minister Scott Morrison has stated that vaccinated Australians might be able to regain some of their mobility once the vaccination rate reaches 70%, and broad lockdowns may be avoidable altogether if the vaccination rate hits 80%.
“If you get vaccinated, there will be special rules that apply to you,” Morrison told reporters. “Why? Because if you’re vaccinated, you present less of a public health risk.”
A rational person might question whether Morrison would actually hold true to his word. A person blinded by anger probably won’t, but will instead direct their frustration onto the holdouts that prevent the vaccination rate from reaching that magical threshold where they believe freedom will be restored.
https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/p/mob-morality-and-the-unvaxxed
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by Eroo 5/9/2021, 03:48
kaya wrote:Ja sam primjetila da ti luđaci stranci ne idu doma nego i dalje dolaze. Jel oni misle ljetovati do 1.12 ili što?michaellcmacha wrote:k nami ovih dana dolazi prvi kontigent od ukupno 3000 slovenaca, 90% penzići, budu brali grožđe, smokve, masline i tako do 15.10. ove godineEroo wrote:U DU i dalje gužva.
Ipak su se dobro snašli u ovom ludilu.
Hvala Stožeru i Plenkiju, dobro su ovo odradili ...i simpatičnoj ministrici turizma, naravno.
https://www.livecamcroatia.com/hr/kamera/dubrovnik-stradun-hd-okretna-kamera
Do sada su do 1.9 otišli doma a sada dolaze..
Imate još uvijek najbolju epidemiološku sliku među vama konkurentskim turističkim državama.
Pored toga, dobar dio onih koji inače odmor provode u domicilnim državama, zbog strogih mjera
nisu tamo proveli odmor, pa sad to konzumiraju u HR, gdje je sve više-manje opušteno.
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by Eroo 5/9/2021, 05:03
Gnječ wrote:
https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/p/mob-morality-and-the-unvaxxed
Članak je super, jer nudi jedan pogled o kojem zbog mnogo razloga nismo skloni razmišljati.
S dugim uvodom preko američkih rasnih problema, njemačkog fašizma itd, dovodi nas
do današnje pandemije i podjela na cijepljene i necijepljene. Autor članka postavlja
puno pitanja i sumnji o opravdanosti cijepljenja. Predpostavljam da autor i nije baš neki stručnjak za
ovo područje, ali da može sumnjati i birati epidemiološke stručnjake čija se miššljenja slažu
s njegovim očekivanjima, to može i meni je ok. Ako sve sumiram mogao bih zaključiti da autor članka
zagovara slobodno kolanje virusa u populaciji, bez ikakvog pokušaja sprječavanja širenja zaraze
i s time pomora stanovništva po "vlastitom izboru virusa". Autor je očigledno moralna osoba, ali se ne mogu
oteti dojmu da je ovaj moralni aspekt propustio sagledati. Pitam se, tko je taj koji bi mogao pustiti
haranje virusa po populaciji i tako usmrtiti 30-40-50, ili koliko već posto populacije?
Autoru članka kao da nije poznata "psihologija masa", koju je Hitler usavršio, a nakon njega neki usvršili
i povezali s "pravednošću" i "jednakošću", da ne kažem s "bratstvom i jedinstvom". Vidjeli smo
kako to na kraju završi. Pustimo politiku vratimo se nazad na ono šta zapravo hoću reći kao moju
primjedbu na članak.
Pa recimo, ide epidemija, nemamo cjepiva jer je loš izbor, nemamo ni lijekova, a posljedice su sljedeće:
Zbog masovnog oboljevanja (i straha) nema hrane u trgovinama - glad je neminovan, firme prestanu raditi
pa tako i zdravstveni domovi i bolnice zbog prenatrpanosti...ljudi masovno umiru, ne više u hospicijima
već po kućama i na putu do bolnice (koja ne prima pacijente),ili pred bolnicama....
Panika i raspad sistema su neminovne pojave. Ponašanje ljudi nije moguće predvidjeti, sve je moguće...
Obično ovdje dam kao primjer talijanske province Bergamo. Nije najbolji, jer iza sebe ima veliku državu
Italiju, ali je ipak najbliži onome što želim reći.
Ispod ponavljam link na članak od BERGAMO NEWS, koji se odnosi na događanje u mjesecu ožujku, 2020.
Samo bih dodao jedan podatak : Provinca Bergamo ima cca 1.14 milijuna stanovnika.
I za kraj: autor članka ne nudi rješenja (osim slobodno kolanje virusa) za epidemiju i smatra da ovo što radimo nije OK.
Osobno mislim da bolje od ovoga što radimo za sada nemamo.
https://www.bergamonews.it/2020/05/05/coronavirus-a-marzo-5-900-i-morti-in-bergamasca-i-dati-comune-per-comune/370139/
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by veber 5/9/2021, 07:09
ajde majmune jeda spamerski imaš dvije teme koje si zasrao pa seri tamo, a nama ostalima ostavi barem jednu da te ne gledamo.
ionako nitko ne čita tvoje nebuloze i energiju gubimo da ti objasnimo da si kreten.
možeš lijepo sam sa sobom na dvije teme.
ionako nitko ne čita tvoje nebuloze i energiju gubimo da ti objasnimo da si kreten.
možeš lijepo sam sa sobom na dvije teme.
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by michaellcmacha 5/9/2021, 07:57
negdje početkom srpnja kad su gužve počele, govorili mi domači nije to ništa, pred kraj srpnja domaći se pogubili od dragosti jer su privatno prodavali po 100 eura noć u nekoj brzinski sklepanoj izbi, a sredinom kolovoza vele da ovako nešto još nisu doživjeli... na cijelom Braču nije bilo slobodnog kreveta... i još se dogodilo nešto što se dosad nije događalo.... najskuplje sobe su se stavljale u pogon spuštajući im cijenu i za pola i više, tak da je naš adult hotel 8, davao sobe i po 200 eura noć...kaya wrote:Ja sam primjetila da ti luđaci stranci ne idu doma nego i dalje dolaze. Jel oni misle ljetovati do 1.12 ili što?michaellcmacha wrote:k nami ovih dana dolazi prvi kontigent od ukupno 3000 slovenaca, 90% penzići, budu brali grožđe, smokve, masline i tako do 15.10. ove godineEroo wrote:U DU i dalje gužva.
Ipak su se dobro snašli u ovom ludilu.
Hvala Stožeru i Plenkiju, dobro su ovo odradili ...i simpatičnoj ministrici turizma, naravno.
https://www.livecamcroatia.com/hr/kamera/dubrovnik-stradun-hd-okretna-kamera
Do sada su do 1.9 otišli doma a sada dolaze..
uglavnom rujan je pun i 10 dana u listopadu... plus padobranci...
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Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by Eroo 5/9/2021, 07:59
Kako ne, pa eto, ti si mi jedan od najvjernijih prailaca.veber wrote:ajde majmune jeda spamerski imaš dvije teme koje si zasrao pa seri tamo, a nama ostalima ostavi barem jednu da te ne gledamo.
ionako nitko ne čita tvoje nebuloze i energiju gubimo da ti objasnimo da si kreten.
možeš lijepo sam sa sobom na dvije teme.
Ne reče mi kako Safet? Je li ti se javlja šta?
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2016-07-22
Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by epikur37 5/9/2021, 08:06
kaya wrote:Ja sam primjetila da ti luđaci stranci ne idu doma nego i dalje dolaze. Jel oni misle ljetovati do 1.12 ili što?michaellcmacha wrote:k nami ovih dana dolazi prvi kontigent od ukupno 3000 slovenaca, 90% penzići, budu brali grožđe, smokve, masline i tako do 15.10. ove godineEroo wrote:U DU i dalje gužva.
Ipak su se dobro snašli u ovom ludilu.
Hvala Stožeru i Plenkiju, dobro su ovo odradili ...i simpatičnoj ministrici turizma, naravno.
https://www.livecamcroatia.com/hr/kamera/dubrovnik-stradun-hd-okretna-kamera
Do sada su do 1.9 otišli doma a sada dolaze..
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epikur37- Posts : 45328
2015-08-06
Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by michaellcmacha 5/9/2021, 08:11
eno u novom zelandu prva žrtva od delta varijante... ubilo ženu u srednjim devedesetim godinama života, nije se jadna ni okrenula i ode... da nije bilo delte mogla je još koji mjesec poživjeti, a i godinu...Eroo wrote:Gnječ wrote:
https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/p/mob-morality-and-the-unvaxxed
Članak je super, jer nudi jedan pogled o kojem zbog mnogo razloga nismo skloni razmišljati.
S dugim uvodom preko američkih rasnih problema, njemačkog fašizma itd, dovodi nas
do današnje pandemije i podjela na cijepljene i necijepljene. Autor članka postavlja
puno pitanja i sumnji o opravdanosti cijepljenja. Predpostavljam da autor i nije baš neki stručnjak za
ovo područje, ali da može sumnjati i birati epidemiološke stručnjake čija se miššljenja slažu
s njegovim očekivanjima, to može i meni je ok. Ako sve sumiram mogao bih zaključiti da autor članka
zagovara slobodno kolanje virusa u populaciji, bez ikakvog pokušaja sprječavanja širenja zaraze
i s time pomora stanovništva po "vlastitom izboru virusa". Autor je očigledno moralna osoba, ali se ne mogu
oteti dojmu da je ovaj moralni aspekt propustio sagledati. Pitam se, tko je taj koji bi mogao pustiti
haranje virusa po populaciji i tako usmrtiti 30-40-50, ili koliko već posto populacije?
Autoru članka kao da nije poznata "psihologija masa", koju je Hitler usavršio, a nakon njega neki usvršili
i povezali s "pravednošću" i "jednakošću", da ne kažem s "bratstvom i jedinstvom". Vidjeli smo
kako to na kraju završi. Pustimo politiku vratimo se nazad na ono šta zapravo hoću reći kao moju
primjedbu na članak.
Pa recimo, ide epidemija, nemamo cjepiva jer je loš izbor, nemamo ni lijekova, a posljedice su sljedeće:
Zbog masovnog oboljevanja (i straha) nema hrane u trgovinama - glad je neminovan, firme prestanu raditi
pa tako i zdravstveni domovi i bolnice zbog prenatrpanosti...ljudi masovno umiru, ne više u hospicijima
već po kućama i na putu do bolnice (koja ne prima pacijente),ili pred bolnicama....
Panika i raspad sistema su neminovne pojave. Ponašanje ljudi nije moguće predvidjeti, sve je moguće...
Obično ovdje dam kao primjer talijanske province Bergamo. Nije najbolji, jer iza sebe ima veliku državu
Italiju, ali je ipak najbliži onome što želim reći.
Ispod ponavljam link na članak od BERGAMO NEWS, koji se odnosi na događanje u mjesecu ožujku, 2020.
Samo bih dodao jedan podatak : Provinca Bergamo ima cca 1.14 milijuna stanovnika.
I za kraj: autor članka ne nudi rješenja (osim slobodno kolanje virusa) za epidemiju i smatra da ovo što radimo nije OK.
Osobno mislim da bolje od ovoga što radimo za sada nemamo.
https://www.bergamonews.it/2020/05/05/coronavirus-a-marzo-5-900-i-morti-in-bergamasca-i-dati-comune-per-comune/370139/
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michaellcmacha- Posts : 21324
2015-08-08
Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by Eroo 5/9/2021, 08:28
michaellcmacha wrote:eno u novom zelandu prva žrtva od delta varijante... ubilo ženu u srednjim devedesetim godinama života, nije se jadna ni okrenula i ode... da nije bilo delte mogla je još koji mjesec poživjeti, a i godinu...Eroo wrote:Gnječ wrote:
https://charleseisenstein.substack.com/p/mob-morality-and-the-unvaxxed
Članak je super, jer nudi jedan pogled o kojem zbog mnogo razloga nismo skloni razmišljati.
S dugim uvodom preko američkih rasnih problema, njemačkog fašizma itd, dovodi nas
do današnje pandemije i podjela na cijepljene i necijepljene. Autor članka postavlja
puno pitanja i sumnji o opravdanosti cijepljenja. Predpostavljam da autor i nije baš neki stručnjak za
ovo područje, ali da može sumnjati i birati epidemiološke stručnjake čija se miššljenja slažu
s njegovim očekivanjima, to može i meni je ok. Ako sve sumiram mogao bih zaključiti da autor članka
zagovara slobodno kolanje virusa u populaciji, bez ikakvog pokušaja sprječavanja širenja zaraze
i s time pomora stanovništva po "vlastitom izboru virusa". Autor je očigledno moralna osoba, ali se ne mogu
oteti dojmu da je ovaj moralni aspekt propustio sagledati. Pitam se, tko je taj koji bi mogao pustiti
haranje virusa po populaciji i tako usmrtiti 30-40-50, ili koliko već posto populacije?
Autoru članka kao da nije poznata "psihologija masa", koju je Hitler usavršio, a nakon njega neki usvršili
i povezali s "pravednošću" i "jednakošću", da ne kažem s "bratstvom i jedinstvom". Vidjeli smo
kako to na kraju završi. Pustimo politiku vratimo se nazad na ono šta zapravo hoću reći kao moju
primjedbu na članak.
Pa recimo, ide epidemija, nemamo cjepiva jer je loš izbor, nemamo ni lijekova, a posljedice su sljedeće:
Zbog masovnog oboljevanja (i straha) nema hrane u trgovinama - glad je neminovan, firme prestanu raditi
pa tako i zdravstveni domovi i bolnice zbog prenatrpanosti...ljudi masovno umiru, ne više u hospicijima
već po kućama i na putu do bolnice (koja ne prima pacijente),ili pred bolnicama....
Panika i raspad sistema su neminovne pojave. Ponašanje ljudi nije moguće predvidjeti, sve je moguće...
Obično ovdje dam kao primjer talijanske province Bergamo. Nije najbolji, jer iza sebe ima veliku državu
Italiju, ali je ipak najbliži onome što želim reći.
Ispod ponavljam link na članak od BERGAMO NEWS, koji se odnosi na događanje u mjesecu ožujku, 2020.
Samo bih dodao jedan podatak : Provinca Bergamo ima cca 1.14 milijuna stanovnika.
I za kraj: autor članka ne nudi rješenja (osim slobodno kolanje virusa) za epidemiju i smatra da ovo što radimo nije OK.
Osobno mislim da bolje od ovoga što radimo za sada nemamo.
https://www.bergamonews.it/2020/05/05/coronavirus-a-marzo-5-900-i-morti-in-bergamasca-i-dati-comune-per-comune/370139/
Pa i kod vas je umrlo 8,355. Umrlo pa umrlo, pa šta.
Svi ćemo jednom umrijeti, je li tako?
Eroo- Posts : 74951
2016-07-22
Re: Korona novosti i spoznaje
by Guest 5/9/2021, 08:55
bolje nemamo radi debila poput tebe jer ste proglasili "pobjedu" i sad ste spremni forsirat i cjepit u nedogledEroo wrote:
Osobno mislim da bolje od ovoga što radimo za sada nemamo.
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umjesto da se ta greška prizna i traže nova rješenja.
al to je valjda ta nova "znanost" : dokaz je dokaz, ako nije onda nije dokaz.
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