Ruska invazija na Ukrajinu

Tovariš Koba wrote:ukrop aristovič se prijeti pridnjestrovskoj da ju ukrajinske snage mogu zauzeti dok triput pucne prstima.

https://t.me/rusvesna_ZZZ/2634

pa i trebali bi. i nadam se da hoće.

Tovariš Koba wrote:

vuksadinare wrote:

kaya wrote:

Tovariš Koba wrote:ruje uhvatili izgleda i Rvatinu.

https://t.me/intelslava/26654

17 people from the 36th marine brigade, two Azov, one Croat and one ensign - instructor, DRG. Captured in Malinovka.

Pa neka ga ubiju, pa ćemo potjerati i ruse iz hrvatske.

..i rusofile

:D

I preostale Serbe.

Iseljistja v Rosijo.

crvenkasti wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/27111

Užas. Kako se vesele, smradovi.

a ti isto jedeš govna s najglupljih propagandnih kanala velikom žlicom, nek se vesele, neće dugo, tak ste se i vi veselili kad ste na RTS-u gledali velike pobjede slavne srpske vojske u ratu protiv ustaša

pa se odnekud pojavila HV i razbila vam pičku tako da već 30 godina kmečite

jastreb wrote:

Tovariš Koba wrote:

vuksadinare wrote:

kaya wrote:

Tovariš Koba wrote:ruje uhvatili izgleda i Rvatinu.

https://t.me/intelslava/26654

17 people from the 36th marine brigade, two Azov, one Croat and one ensign - instructor, DRG. Captured in Malinovka.

Pa neka ga ubiju, pa ćemo potjerati i ruse iz hrvatske.

..i rusofile

:D

I preostale Serbe.

Iseljistja v Rosijo.

....i tebe cese

marcellus wrote:

crvenkasti wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/27111

Užas. Kako se vesele, smradovi.

a ti isto jedeš govna s najglupljih propagandnih kanala velikom žlicom, nek se vesele, neće dugo, tak ste se i vi veselili kad ste na RTS-u gledali velike pobjede slavne srpske vojske u ratu protiv ustaša

pa se odnekud pojavila HV i razbila vam pičku tako da već 30 godina kmečite

Tko će Rusima razbit pičku?

pa ukrainci očito. već im razbijaju dobro pichku..

Hektorović wrote:FT: Neki od najvećih europskih distributera plina spremaju se za plaćanje ruskog plina rubljima
Financial Times javlja kako se neki od najvećih europskih uvoznika plina pripremaju pristati na zahtjev Vladimira Putina da plin plaćaju ruskim rubljima.
Podsjetimo, taj ruski potez je predsjednica Europske komisije Ursula von der Leyen opisala kao "ucjenu". 
Neke od najvećih europskih energetskih kompanija pripremaju se za korištenje novog sustava plaćanja ruskog plina, koji zahtijeva Kremlj. Kritičari tvrde da bi takav potez potkopao europske sankcije Rusiji, baš kao i jedinstvo Europske unije te u konačnici ulio milijarde u rusku ekonomiju.
FT piše, pozivajući se na izvore upućene u situaciju, kako veliki distributeri plina u Njemačkoj, Austriji, Mađarskoj i Slovačkoj planiraju otvoriti račune u rubljima pri Gazprombanci u Švicarskoj kako bi udovoljiti ruskom zahtjevu za plaćanje plina u toj valuti
Ta skupina uključuje dva najveća uvoznika ruskog plina - njemački Uniper i austrijski OMV, navodi Financial Times.

Umjesto da smo prestali kupovat ruski plin, napravili smo nešto još gore: pristali smo plaćati im u rubljama.
Time smo rublju ne samo pretvorili u svjetsku valutu, nego smo ju sveli u istu ravninu s petrodolarom.

Tko god sad kupuje ruski plin ne plaća samo plin, nego direktno financira Putina i njegovu državu.

Lijepo im je rekao Zelenski:

https://twitter.com/johnson/status/1512043471753949185

https://bloody.energy/

moderatore, koliko fore daješ crvenome za spam? rođo ero ono ima 3 posta, a ovaj?

Barbare je protjeralo sinoc kraj olsekdandrivke...ovo je tko zna koji put da to selo kod Hersona prelazi iz ruke u ruku.

Svim lažovima,petokolonašima i ostalim govnima želim lijep i produktivan dan!

ljubo1212 wrote:moderatore, koliko fore daješ crvenome za spam? rođo ero ono ima 3 posta, a ovaj?

Pa zar ne vidiš da sad navijam za Ukrajince i Zelenskog? Zajebo si se.

crvenkasti wrote:

ljubo1212 wrote:moderatore, koliko fore daješ crvenome za spam? rođo ero ono ima 3 posta, a ovaj?

Pa zar ne vidiš da sad navijam za Ukrajince i Zelenskog? Zajebo si se.

Jok. Ti uvijek navijaš za one koji ruše,uništavaju,ubijaju i otimlju tuđe. Zapisano ti u DNA kod. Takav si kakav si.

Sve ovo ostalo....smokescreen.

MDMiridije wrote:

crvenkasti wrote:

ljubo1212 wrote:moderatore, koliko fore daješ crvenome za spam? rođo ero ono ima 3 posta, a ovaj?

Pa zar ne vidiš da sad navijam za Ukrajince i Zelenskog? Zajebo si se.

Jok. Ti uvijek navijaš za one koji ruše,uništavaju,ubijaju i otimlju tuđe. Zapisano ti u DNA kod. Takav si kakav si.

Sve ovo ostalo....smokescreen.

Kako da ubijem četnika i Rusa u sebi?

crvenkasti wrote:

marcellus wrote:

crvenkasti wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/27111

Užas. Kako se vesele, smradovi.

a ti isto jedeš govna s najglupljih propagandnih kanala velikom žlicom, nek se vesele, neće dugo, tak ste se i vi veselili kad ste na RTS-u gledali velike pobjede slavne srpske vojske u ratu protiv ustaša

pa se odnekud pojavila HV i razbila vam pičku tako da već 30 godina kmečite

Tko će Rusima razbit pičku?

samo izazivajte što više, prije ćete dobiti

“Kada završite u konvencionalnom sukobu, NATO savez nadmašuje Rusiju 15 prema jedan. Imamo prednost četiri prema jedan u kopnenim trupama. Imamo prednost pet prema jedan u borbenim zrakoplovima, šest prema- jedna prednost u ratnim brodovima”, rekao je James Stavridis, bivši glavni zapovjednik NATO-a.

crvenkasti wrote:

MDMiridije wrote:

crvenkasti wrote:

ljubo1212 wrote:moderatore, koliko fore daješ crvenome za spam? rođo ero ono ima 3 posta, a ovaj?

Pa zar ne vidiš da sad navijam za Ukrajince i Zelenskog? Zajebo si se.

Jok. Ti uvijek navijaš za one koji ruše,uništavaju,ubijaju i otimlju tuđe. Zapisano ti u DNA kod. Takav si kakav si.

Sve ovo ostalo....smokescreen.

Kako da ubijem četnika i Rusa u sebi?

Nikako. Nisi ti četnik, po onoj definiciji koju sam sebi opisuješ što četnik znači. Ali si kivan i ljut na neke dijelove hr povijesti te se prema istima postavljaš na način da bi eventualnu osvetu isfurao na način kako su to četnici radili. Što je samo po sebi sjebano.

A ovo s Rusima i Ukrainom, tu ste ruknuli generalno civilizacijski. Isključivo iz razloga jer vas je Nato bombardirao kanalizirali ste svu mržnju na zemlju koja vam nikada ništa nije napravila iz isključivog razloga jer ih rusija napada. Toliko ste sjebani da to nije istina. Jadno skroz.

Doduše ovi naši kvazi domoljubi kojima se kurac orosi kad vide uništenu zgradu ili ubijenog civila su još gori pa imaš još lufta ispred dok ne dođeš baš na dno.

Noor wrote:

crvenkasti wrote:

marcellus wrote:

crvenkasti wrote:https://t.me/intelslava/27111

Užas. Kako se vesele, smradovi.

a ti isto jedeš govna s najglupljih propagandnih kanala velikom žlicom, nek se vesele, neće dugo, tak ste se i vi veselili kad ste na RTS-u gledali velike pobjede slavne srpske vojske u ratu protiv ustaša

pa se odnekud pojavila HV i razbila vam pičku tako da već 30 godina kmečite

Tko će Rusima razbit pičku?

samo izazivajte što više, prije ćete dobiti

“Kada završite u konvencionalnom sukobu, NATO savez nadmašuje Rusiju 15 prema jedan. Imamo prednost četiri prema jedan u kopnenim trupama. Imamo prednost pet prema jedan u borbenim zrakoplovima, šest prema- jedna prednost u ratnim brodovima”, rekao je James Stavridis, bivši glavni zapovjednik NATO-a.

A kad uspijemo napraviti i hipersonične krstareće rakete, bit ćemo jači od njih.

Hypersonic missile failures cast doubt on US bid to catch up with China and Russia

MDMiridije wrote:
... isključivo iz razloga jer vas je Nato bombardirao
... iz isključivog razloga jer ih rusija napada.

Ne mogu bit dva isključiva razloga.
Daj se dogovori sam sa sobom.

crvenkasti wrote:
Baš su kul ti Rusi.
Ono, primitivno, životinjski, divljački, pobjednički.
Sve što žene mrze, a istovremeno im je neodoljivo privlačno.

Znaju li Rusi ovo vak ka Ukrajinci?

The Ukrainian army is full of talented defenders :muscle::beginner:

Viveo: @mitya_skeiter pic.twitter.com/db0lRwYVw1

— The New Voice of Ukraine (@NewVoiceUkraine) April 27, 2022

Center for European Policy Analysis ima jako dobru analizu sa nekim insiderskim informacijama. Radi se o jednom o najozbiljnijih think-thankova u DC-u. 

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Vicious Blame Game Erupts Among Putin’s Security Forces

The security institutions, the ‘siloviki', that are key to propping up the regime are exchanging recriminations for a growing list of failures in the war on Ukraine.

April 25, 2022


Russia’s army is deeply unhappy at the new and curtailed strategy Putin has ordered them to adopt in Ukraine, abandoning the big goal of capturing Kyiv for a much more modest objective of invading Donbas, in the country’s east.
And they are pointing the finger at other agencies, the FSB’s foreign intelligence branch primarily, for misinforming the president about the true conditions inside Ukraine that have led to failure. Other FSB departments appear to share the military’s analysis.
The war in Ukraine sharply divided Russian society. As journalists, we expected to lose many of our contacts in the Russian military and secret services after the invasion began on February 24. After all, it’s one thing to complain to a journalist about corruption in one’s agency, and it’s quite another to speak about the war with those who have taken a public antiwar stand. And indeed, in the first month of the war, some sources refused to answer our calls and messages.
But the situation has now changed dramatically. Last week we began to receive more and more calls and messages from our contacts in the military and in the FSB commenting on our reporting about Sergei Beseda, one of the heads of the Fifth Service of the FSB, who gathers political intelligence on Ukraine and cultivates the pro-Kremlin opposition in Kyiv. The general was sent to the infamous Lefortovo prison in Moscow, which has had a horrible reputation since the Stalin purges — innumerable victims have been murdered in the building’s basement.
The Kremlin has made frantic efforts to hide the details of Beseda’s arrest, going as far as to change the general’s name in prison records. (The Investigative Committee, Russia’s main investigative authority, went so far as to deny the fact of Beseda’s criminal prosecution.)
“Well done!” was a message from our old contacts in Russian Spetsnaz (special forces in the Russian military intelligence.) “All true!” we were told by our contact in the Service of Economic Security of the FSB. Videos about Beseda’s plight have recorded millions of views on Russian YouTube, and were widely debated on pro-Kremlin telegram channels. The rumor mill went wild suggesting that compromising material on Beseda was provided by its rival agency, the foreign intelligence service, the SVR.
Does this mean that the military or the FSB has concluded that the war, with its enormous casualties and incompetent direction, was a mistake? The short answer is no, quite the opposite.
Russia’s military believes that limiting the war’s initial goals is a serious error. They now argue that Russia is not fighting Ukraine, but NATO. Senior officers have therefore concluded that the Western alliance is fighting all out (through the supply of increasingly sophisticated weaponry) while its own forces operate under peacetime constraints like a bar on airstrikes against some key areas of Ukraine’s infrastructure. In short, the military now demands all-out war, including mobilization.
The frustration is becoming so intense that it has spilled over into the public space. Alexander Arutyunov (aka, the blogger RAZVEDOS), a well-known veteran of Spetsnaz of the National Guard, made a video plea to Putin: "Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, please decide, are we fighting a war or are we masturbating?"
He demanded a massive escalation, with a choice of airstrikes on Ukrainian infrastructure or an end to the war. The video went viral, especially with pro-military groups on VK and those Telegram channels affiliated with the Russian army.
The telegram channel “FighterBomber” associated with the Russian air force, posted on April 12 a comment about NATO’s weapon supplies to Ukraine: “Naturally, we’ll further increase air defense units on the border with Ukraine in order to cover our territory from ballistic missile strikes, but it is also clear that NATO countries have far more weapons than Russia.”
The author expressed optimism that the Russian air force will be able to staunch the flow of Western supplies, but warned that further Ukrainian victories “will almost certainly prompt the use of nuclear weapons” against targets in Ukraine.
And then on April 22, Russian army General Rustam Minnekaev announced a second phase of the “special operation” which would aim to “establish full control over the Donbas and Southern Ukraine.
“This will provide a land corridor to the Crimea, as well as influence the vital objects of the Ukrainian economy,” Minnekaev said, according to Russian wire agencies. “Control over the south of Ukraine is another way out to Transnistria [the Russian-garrisoned breakaway region of Moldova], where there are also facts of oppression of the Russian-speaking population.”
This was odd. Minnekaev is Deputy Commander of the Central Military District, and he made his remarks at the annual meeting of the Union of Defense Industries, of all places. The most plausible explanation was that having recently attended General Staff meetings, he became over-excited at what he had heard, and then revealed the news at the first public meeting thereafter. Regardless, it is a sign that the Russian army wants more war rather than less.
What is absent in all these discussions within the military, public or private, is any criticism towards Sergei Shoigu, the Minister of Defense, and the public face of the war. Somehow Shoigu has succeeded in keeping the respect of the military, and redirecting all the anger away from the military.
Privately, the army, and even the secret services, have been heard to blame not only the Fifth Service of the FSB for misinforming the president, but also the president himself for making a bad call on changing the military strategy.
In 2014, when the Russian army swiftly occupied Crimea, the military and the security services were on the same page with Putin – they fully supported his decision to annex Crimea and were enthusiastic about the way it was done. It is very significantly different in 2022.
Does it matter? It matters a lot. This is the very first time the siloviki are putting distance between themselves and the president. Which opens up all sorts of possibilities.