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Ja bih ipak upozorila da se sve, ali sve cita sa zrnom soli u glavi i mudima medju nogama jer jednom kad se zamijete pukotine neke institucionalne teorije lako je neku teoriju zavjere prihvatiti kao uvjerljivu. I za tren nas lupaju paranoje. I za tren trazimo nove "potvrde". Zastrasenom umu vrlo je lako podvaliti "cinjenice", posebno ako odudaraju od sluzbene verzije. Skepsa. Uvijek. I prema onom sto nam zvuci uvjerljivo.

violator wrote:Ja bih ipak upozorila da se sve, ali sve cita sa zrnom soli u glavi i mudima medju nogama jer jednom kad se zamijete pukotine neke institucionalne teorije lako je neku teoriju zavjere prihvatiti kao uvjerljivu. I za tren nas lupaju paranoje. I za tren trazimo nove "potvrde". Zastrasenom umu vrlo je lako podvaliti "cinjenice", posebno sko odudaraju od sluzbene verzije u koju smo posumnjali. Skepsa. Uvijek. I prema onom sto nam zvuci uvjerljivo.

hehe...

U psihijatriji smo učili da delirična perspektiva izgleda kao razbijeno ogledalo..

:p samo dobro pratite ionternet ;)

Gnječ wrote:da batman šišmiš. koji su virus ovi luđaci psihopate smućkali u pizdu materinu.

na galge!

koliko je izraelaca cijepljeno s dvije doze, znači zanima me postotak u odnosu na odraslu populaciju

epikur37 wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:
Revolucija ne čeka...
:)

e da :)

Pored mene bi mogle proći ti revolucije i dva rata...okopavao bih i dalje kumpir.

zbog takvih poput tebe su izmišljeni ustaše i četnici... da vas "nevine" potaracaju

zna li netko je li ovo točno?

epikur37 wrote:hehe...

U psihijatriji smo učili da delirična perspektiva izgleda kao razbijeno ogledalo..

:p samo dobro pratite ionternet ;)

Nisam bas shvatila ovaj plazijezik i tvoj komentar o netu. Vecina ljudi i ne zna pretrazivati mrezu svih mreza pa ostanu pri hrpi dezinformacija koju pokusavaju usustaviti. Ali nisam ni za slusanje strucnjaka pod svaku cijenu jer treba uposliti vlastite umne kapacitete, razmisljati o onome sto cujemo, citamo. Provjeravati, ne pretpostavljati.

U osnovi, sve sto zelim reci jest da istu tu sumnju kojom smo izlozili neku institucionalnu teoriju upotrijebimo i za teorije zavjere koje spremno cekaju da bi zamijenile onu u koju smo posumnjali.

violator wrote:Ja bih ipak upozorila da se sve, ali sve cita sa zrnom soli u glavi i mudima medju nogama jer jednom kad se zamijete pukotine neke institucionalne teorije lako je neku teoriju zavjere prihvatiti kao uvjerljivu. I za tren nas lupaju paranoje. I za tren trazimo nove "potvrde". Zastrasenom umu vrlo je lako podvaliti "cinjenice", posebno ako odudaraju od sluzbene verzije. Skepsa. Uvijek. I prema onom sto nam zvuci uvjerljivo.

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ako se netko ne pridržava gornjeg upozorenja, ja nisam odgovoran za potencijalnu nastalu štetu bilo materijalnu, mentalnu, duševnu i bilo koje druge naravi.

violator wrote:Ja bih ipak upozorila da se sve, ali sve cita sa zrnom soli u glavi i mudima medju nogama jer jednom kad se zamijete pukotine neke institucionalne teorije lako je neku teoriju zavjere prihvatiti kao uvjerljivu. I za tren nas lupaju paranoje. I za tren trazimo nove "potvrde". Zastrasenom umu vrlo je lako podvaliti "cinjenice", posebno ako odudaraju od sluzbene verzije. Skepsa. Uvijek. I prema onom sto nam zvuci uvjerljivo.

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violator wrote:Ja bih ipak upozorila da se sve, ali sve cita sa zrnom soli u glavi i mudima medju nogama jer jednom kad se zamijete pukotine neke institucionalne teorije lako je neku teoriju zavjere prihvatiti kao uvjerljivu. I za tren nas lupaju paranoje. I za tren trazimo nove "potvrde". Zastrasenom umu vrlo je lako podvaliti "cinjenice", posebno ako odudaraju od sluzbene verzije. Skepsa. Uvijek. I prema onom sto nam zvuci uvjerljivo.

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ako netko želi čitati moje postove neka sve to čita sa vrećom soli blizu sebe i sa zrnom soli u glavi i mudima među nogama.

ako se netko ne pridržava gornjeg upozorenja, ja nisam odgovoran za potencijalnu nastalu štetu bilo materijalnu, mentalnu, duševnu i bilo koje druge naravi.

Odlicno! Barem netko!

Svi se ponasaju kao da su uhvatili svemir za yaya i kao da je sve svima jasno.

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Gnječ wrote:

violator wrote:Ja bih ipak upozorila da se sve, ali sve cita sa zrnom soli u glavi i mudima medju nogama jer jednom kad se zamijete pukotine neke institucionalne teorije lako je neku teoriju zavjere prihvatiti kao uvjerljivu. I za tren nas lupaju paranoje. I za tren trazimo nove "potvrde". Zastrasenom umu vrlo je lako podvaliti "cinjenice", posebno ako odudaraju od sluzbene verzije. Skepsa. Uvijek. I prema onom sto nam zvuci uvjerljivo.

ubuduće ću napisati:

DISCLAIMER:

ako netko želi čitati moje postove neka sve to čita sa vrećom soli blizu sebe i sa zrnom soli u glavi i mudima među nogama.

ako se netko ne pridržava gornjeg upozorenja, ja nisam odgovoran za potencijalnu nastalu štetu bilo materijalnu, mentalnu, duševnu i bilo koje druge naravi.

Odlicno! Barem netko!

Svi se ponasaju kao da su uhvatili svemir za yaya i kao da je sve svima jasno.

iskreno, meni nije jasno ništa osim da je virus tu i da je sintetiziran u laboratoriju jer do dana današnjeg nitko nije dao opipljivi dokaz da je virus sa šišmiša skočio na čovjeka i odma u par mjeseci zarazio cijelu planetu. ne vjerujem nikome. dok ne provjerim na barem dva tri ili više nezavisnih izvora svaki napisani tekst, video, itd. uzimam sa šakom soli & balls of steel i to ne objavljujem na forumu. ako potvrdim da je nešto vjerodostojno onda stavim na forum.

za druge ne znam neka se sami izjasne ako žele.

i dodatak na kanadsku pošiljku virusa kinezima. nisu kanađani poslali samo 3 vrste visoko patogenih virusa nego više.

Newly-released access-to-information documents reveal details about a shipment of deadly pathogens last year (2019) from Canada's National Microbiology Lab to China — confirming for the first time who sent them, what exactly was shipped, and where it went.

"In response to a request from the Wuhan Institute of Virology for viral samples of Ebola and Henipah viruses, the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) sent samples for the purpose of scientific research in 2019."

"We have a researcher who was removed by the RCMP from the highest security laboratory that Canada has for reasons that government is unwilling to disclose. The intelligence remains secret. But what we know is that before she was removed, she sent one of the deadliest viruses on Earth, and multiple varieties of it to maximize the genetic diversity and maximize what experimenters in China could do with it, to a laboratory in China that does dangerous gain of function experiments. And that has links to the Chinese military."

Gain of function experiments are when a natural pathogen is taken into the lab, made to mutate, and then assessed to see if it has become more deadly or infectious.

In Canada, gain of function experiments to create more dangerous pathogens in humans are not prohibited, but are not done because they're considered too dangerous, Attaran said.

"The Wuhan lab does them and we have now supplied them with Ebola and Nipah viruses. It does not take a genius to understand that this is an unwise decision," he said.

"I am extremely unhappy to see that the Canadian government shared that genetic material."

Attaran pointed to an Ebola study first published in December 2018, three months after Qiu began the process of exporting the viruses to China. The study involved researchers from the NML and University of Manitoba.

The lead author, Hualei Wang, is involved with the Academy of Military Medical Sciences, a Chinese military medical research institute in Beijing.

All of this has led to conspiracy theories linking the novel coronavirus responsible for COVID-19, Canada's microbiology lab, and the lab in Wuhan.

The RCMP and PHAC have consistently denied any connections between the pandemic and the virus shipments. There is no evidence linking this shipment to the spread of the coronavirus. Ebola is a filovirus and Henipa is a paramyxovirus; no coronavirus samples were sent.

znači da su imali coronavirus samples ali ih nisu poslali?

The ATIP documents identify for the first time exactly what was shipped to China.

The list includes two vials each of 15 strains of virus:  

   Ebola Makona (three different varieties)
   Mayinga.
   Kikwit.
   Ivory Coast.
   Bundibugyo.
   Sudan Boniface.
   Sudan Gulu.
   MA-Ebov.
   GP-Ebov.
   GP-Sudan.
   Hendra.
   Nipah Malaysia.
   Nipah Bangladesh.

The ATIP documents provide details about the months leading up to the shipment — including confusion over how to package the deadly viruses — the lack of decontamination of the package before it was sent, and concerns expressed by the NML's director-general Matthew Gilmour in Winnipeg, and his superiors in Ottawa.

They wanted to know where the package was going, what was in it, and whether it had the proper paperwork.

In one email, Gilmour said Material Transfer Agreements would be required, "not generic 'guarantees' on the storage and usage."

He also asked David Safronetz, chief of special pathogens: "Good to know that you trust this group. How did we get connected with them?"

Safronetz replied: "They are requesting material from us due to collaboration with Dr. Qiu."

Meanwhile, it appears the NML's shipper initially planned to send the viruses in inappropriate packaging and only changed it when the clients in China flagged the problem.

"The only reason the correct packaging was used is because the Chinese wrote to them and said, 'Aren't you making a mistake here?' If that had not happened, the scientists would have placed on an Air Canada flight, several of them actually, a deadly virus incorrectly packaged. That nearly happened," Attaran said.

The package was routed from Winnipeg to Toronto and then to Beijing on a commercial Air Canada flight on Mar. 31, 2019.

The next day, the recipients replied that the package had arrived safely.

"We would like to express our sincere gratitude to you all for your continuous support, especially Dr. Qiu and Anders! Thanks a lot!! Looking forward to our further cooperation in the future," said the heavily redacted email, which does not provide the name of the sender.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/canadian-scientist-sent-deadly-viruses-to-wuhan-lab-months-before-rcmp-asked-to-investigate-1.5609582

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In the paper, a forensic examination of the sequencing data from five COVID-19 bronchial lavage patient specimens reveals that the laboratory at the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) was contaminated with a wide range of viruses, including Nipah virus genes in a cloning vector. Nipah is a BSL-4 pathogen with a lethality of 50% to 92%.

The highlights of the paper are:

   Five patient specimens were sequenced by the WIV in December 2019 and were part of an early report on SARS-CoV-2 published by Dr. Zhengli Shi and colleagues (Nature 579, 270–273 (2020). This paper has been viewed over one million times, making it one of the most highly read papers on the pandemic virus.
   The most abundant contaminant is an undisclosed H7N9 influenza vaccine, which in one specimen is over six-times as abundant as SARS-CoV-2.
   The Nipah virus gene sequences were found in infectious cloning vectors of the type used for genetic manipulation.
   Nineteen other contaminants, including Japanese Encephalitis virus, HIV, human T-cell leukemia virus, and hepatitis delta virus were found.

"It was surprising to find a menagerie of deadly viruses, strange pathogens, and even honeysuckle, plant genes in patient specimens sequenced at the WIV in December 2019, especially since this patient sequencing data has been publicly available to the entire scientific community inside of the US NIH GenBank database since February 2020," stated Dr. Steven Quay, MD, PhD. "The apparent widespread contamination of the laboratory at the very time the pandemic was just beginning is of course worrisome. But more important is getting answers to these questions: Why do these patient specimens contain an unreported influenza vaccine? What was the purpose of creating an undisclosed, apparently infectious clone of the deadly Nipah virus? Is this Nipah research part of another gain-of-function research project at the Wuhan Institute of Virology?"


CONTAMINATION OR VACCINE RESEARCH? RNA Sequencing data of early COVID-19 patient samples show abnormal presence of vectorized H7N9 hemagglutinin segment

Surprisingly, all the five samples analysed by MGISEQ-2000RS machine showed the presence of a sequence H7N9 ‘Hemagglutinin A (HA) segment 4’ gene in a relatively high proportion, and in one case six- times the abundance of the SARS-CoV-2 sequences. The presence of non-SARS-CoV-2, including these influenza A genes, has been reported earlier, and this data was also used in our current study for comparison and analysis. The surprising finding was the HA segment 4 gene cloned in an expression vector, pVAX1, confirming previously identified vector sequences3,4. A WIV publication documented that DNA vaccines containing H7N9 HA genes were being developed and tested in mice in WIV at the same time as the outbreak (2019-2020). In addition, all five samples showed a relatively high proportion of Spodoptera frugiperda rhabdovirus (13-83% of SARS-CoV-2 reads). Additionally, the samples also showed the presence of other low-abundance, high homology (LAHH) sequences, mostly of viral origin and not expected to be associated with human BALF specimens. These LAHH sequences could be contaminants, and we identified these viruses as part of previously published research at the WIV, providing a genomic record of prior work. The ability to identify previously performed research in the meta-transcriptome raw data reads from a laboratory provides a new forensic tool. The presence of cloned H7N9 HA gene segment in the transcriptome data of the early five patients processed in the WIV should be treated as an important forensic clue and warrants a full investigation. The most important question considering the plausible hypothesis that the SARS-CoV-2 could have escaped due to a lab accident would be: what does the co-occurrence of vectorized H7N9 sequences with SARS-CoV2 sequences in the early COVID-19 patients suggests?

https://zenodo.org/record/5067706#.YT0it8BuK2V

kad smo se već dotakli disclaimera, onda treba disclaimer staviti i na #slusajstruku ili barem onaj agresivni dio struke koje histerično gura cjepivo i provodi razne mjere. njima nije za vjerovati jer stalno lažu i muljaju a sve one koji ukazuju na to proglašavaju teoretičarima zavjere. taj dio struke koja je agresivna isprovocirala je neviđenu cenzuru na svim medijima i društvenim mrežama.

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WU WHAT?
Nearly all Lancet scientists who publicly trashed Covid lab leak theory have links to Wuhan research, report says

11 Sep 2021

TWENTY six of the twenty-seven scientists who publicly trashed the Covid lab leak theory have links to Wuhan researchers, it has been reported.

The group published a letter in March last year denouncing “conspiracy theories” that the virus was made or leaked from the centre in the Chinese city.

The scientists had previously denounced claims that the Covid was leaked from the Wuhan Institute in China.

But now those same, scientists, including Dr Peter Daszak have reported to have links to the centre.

But now an investigation by the Daily Telegraph into the signatories of that letter, have revealed that nearly all of them have some link to the Wuhan Institute of Virology – raising serious questions about their impartiality.

They include Dr Peter Daszak, the British president of EcoHealth Alliance, and UK Government scientific adviser Sir Jeremy Farrar.

Only one - Dr Ronald Corley, a microbiology expert from Boston University - has been found to have no links back to funders or researchers at the Wuhan institute.

Only in February this year, the World Health Organisation rejected the idea that Covid began in a Wuhan wet market or was the result of a lab leak.

But, for scientists who have tried to prove otherwise, including Professor Angus Dalgleish and Norwegian scientist Birger Sorensen, this latest news lays further claim that there has been an “extreme cover-up”, the Telegraph reports.

Commenting on the discovery, Dalgleish and Sorensen said the findings “show beyond reasonable doubt that our entire area of virus research has been contaminated politically.

“We bear the scars to show it,” they added.

Three of the signatories were also from Britain’s Wellcome Trust, which has funded work at the Wuhan Institute of Virology in the past.

And Sir Jeremy Farrar, has also published work with George Gao - the head of the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention - for whom he describes as an “old friend.”

'EXTREME COVER UP'

The information of their involvement with the Institute came after Dr Peter Daszak was removed from the United Nations commission investigating the origins of Covid.

Reports revealed that the EcoHealth Alliance, for which he is President, had funneled taxpayer cash to WIV to carry out gain of function research of bat-based coronaviruses.

The 55-year-old has a close relationship with the lab's chief Dr Shi Zhengli - dubbed "Batwoman" - and was last year jovially tweeting about singing karaoke with her and "partying in a bat cave" amid the pandemic.

WIV however are the prime suspect as circumstantial evidence mounts that link the origins of the virus to a lab leak as the US ordered a "redoubled" probe.

Dr Daszak was part of the much derided WHO investigation which visited Wuhan early this year, only to have its findings dismissed as a "whitewash" and then be undermined by WHO's director on the same day as its release.

And while an appendix was added to the to The Lancet letter in June this year, pointing out Mr Daszak’s links to Wuhan, no others revealed any conflict of interest came to light until the new reports surfaced now.

Dr Peter Palese, a microbiologist at the Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai in New York, signed the Lancet letter but now acknowledges there are serious questions about the origins of the virus.

The 77-year-old told MailOnline in June: "I believe a thorough investigation about the origin of the Covid-19 virus is needed.

"'A lot of disturbing information has surfaced since the Lancet letter I signed, so I want to see answers covering all questions."

Dr Daszak had also previously denied that live bats were being studied at WIV - only for footage to emerging appearing to show the animals being handled at the lab.

He had already backpedaled on his comments and revealed they didn't even ask if WIV kept live bats when they visited as part of the WHO probe.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/16110791/lancet-scientists-links-wuhan-research-report-says/

Three Scientists Remove Their Names from Lancet Statement Denouncing Lab-Leak Theory

Although the magazine Lancet has doubled down on its efforts to defend China and claim that there is no evidence behind the lab-leak theory of the coronavirus origins, three prominent scientists who originally agreed with this assessment were absent from the magazine’s latest statement, according to the Washington Free Beacon.

On July 5th, the magazine published yet another statement, with numerous signatories, claiming that there is no “scientifically validated evidence” to suggest that the coronavirus pandemic originated at the suspicious Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV). Although many of the names signed onto the statement were the same as those who made a similar assertion back in February of 2020, at least three names are missing.

One of the names is William Karesh, who serves as the executive vice president for health policy at the nonprofit EcoHealth Alliance. As has been widely documented, EcoHealth was a major benefactor of the WIV, providing gain-of-function research funding directly to the institute after the funds had been granted to the nonprofit by the United States government.

EcoHealth is led by Peter Daszak, who was recently removed from Lancet’s formal commission on the origins of the virus, due to his questionable ties to the WIV. Despite this, he signed onto both the February 2020 and the July 2021 statements doubling down on the notion that there was no lab leak.

The other two names absent from this latest statement are Peter Palese of the Icahn School of Medicine and Bernard Roizman of the University of Chicago. When Karesh was asked if he had removed his name due to changing his mind on the theory, he simply responded with “No comment.”

The absence of three original signatories seems to imply a growing divide among alleged “experts” on whether or not the lab leak theory is true. More evidence has emerged in recent months backing up previously-ridiculed claims of such an origin, including the fact that several workers at the WIV reported having coronavirus symptoms as early as November 2019. These reports, including the revealing of EcoHealth’s ties to the institute, have led to numerous U.S. government agencies severing their ties with EcoHealth and halting further funding to the WIV, which has been known to experiment with coronavirus strains in bats and other animals.

https://theminnesotasun.com/2021/07/09/three-scientists-remove-their-names-from-lancet-statement-denouncing-lab-leak-theory/

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#slusajstruku sa kariolom soli u glavi i heavy metal balls.

samo da javim safetu da sam došao iz birtije i to doslovno. buncek, iselo zelje i oktoberfest pivo.
mala digresija fašistu i nacistu.

epikur37 wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:
Revolucija ne čeka...
:)

e da :)

Pored mene bi mogle proći ti revolucije i dva rata...okopavao bih i dalje kumpir.

Ima jedan odličan film s Boris Dvornikom, WW2 tematika. Imam taj dio od 5 sekunda zbog kojih se isplati pogledati i film. Uglavnom Boris okopaje lozu, u daljini prolaze talijanski vojnici i objašnjava netjaku koji želi u borbu da ako oni ne odrade ovaj posao sada oko mlade loze, za 3 godine neće imati vina.

pokerjocker wrote:zna li netko je li ovo točno?

Otprilike jeste. Koliko mi je poznato, jedine dvije zemlje na svijetu koje dobro stoje nakon masovne procjepljenosti su Švedska i Mađarska.

veber wrote:samo da javim safetu da sam došao iz birtije i to doslovno. buncek, iselo zelje i oktoberfest pivo.
mala digresija fašistu i nacistu.

A ja čekam da žena donese bržole i pravac planina, gradele.
Ide i punica koja je prije pola godine ulovila koronu, 43treće godište i bilo joj neugodno šta nema simptoma. Sin joj, 77dmo godište ima fibru par dana :))

mutava baštarda wrote:

epikur37 wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:
Revolucija ne čeka...
:)

e da :)

Pored mene bi mogle proći ti revolucije i dva rata...okopavao bih i dalje kumpir.

Ima jedan odličan film s Boris Dvornikom, WW2 tematika. Imam taj dio od 5 sekunda zbog kojih se isplati pogledati i film. Uglavnom Boris okopaje lozu, u daljini prolaze talijanski vojnici i objašnjava netjaku koji želi u borbu da ako oni ne odrade ovaj posao sada oko mlade loze, za 3 godine neće imati vina.

Lijepo :)

A evo i:

Čuveni kraj ovog romana potaknuo je mnoge rasprave. Prema Voltairu, rad spašava ljude jer rješava tri poroka: dosadu, porok i siromaštvo. “Trebamo obrađivati svoj vrt” i to je sve, kao što tvrdi i Candide u završnoj rečenici romana....

I to je to:obrađuj svoj vrt, raduckaj, jeduckaj, pijuckaj.. jebu kaj...

mutava baštarda wrote:

veber wrote:samo da javim safetu da sam došao iz birtije i to doslovno. buncek, iselo zelje i oktoberfest pivo.
mala digresija fašistu i nacistu.

A ja čekam da žena donese bržole i pravac planina, gradele.
Ide i punica koja je prije pola godine ulovila koronu, 43treće godište i bilo joj neugodno šta nema simptoma. Sin joj, 77dmo godište ima fibru par dana :))

ja tebi dvi bosanske glave ti meni bržole i usoljenu srdelu.
danas kuham za šefa.
ima jebeno zgodnu ženu.
i taman troje djece.

epikur37 wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:

epikur37 wrote:

mutava baštarda wrote:
Revolucija ne čeka...
:)

e da :)

Pored mene bi mogle proći ti revolucije i dva rata...okopavao bih i dalje kumpir.

Ima jedan odličan film s Boris Dvornikom, WW2 tematika. Imam taj dio od 5 sekunda zbog kojih se isplati pogledati i film. Uglavnom Boris okopaje lozu, u daljini prolaze talijanski vojnici i objašnjava netjaku koji želi u borbu da ako oni ne odrade ovaj posao sada oko mlade loze, za 3 godine neće imati vina.

Lijepo :)

A evo i:

Čuveni kraj ovog romana potaknuo je mnoge rasprave. Prema Voltairu, rad spašava ljude jer rješava tri poroka: dosadu, porok i siromaštvo. “Trebamo obrađivati svoj vrt” i to je sve, kao što tvrdi i Candide u završnoj rečenici romana....

I to je to:obrađuj svoj vrt, raduckaj, jeduckaj, pijuckaj.. jebu kaj...

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