Kinesko NE iPhoneu

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nist
ne povecaju cijenu tog svog proizvoda sa $2000
na $20 000
mozda to upali

prckov wrote:nist
ne povecaju cijenu tog svog proizvoda sa $2000
na $20 000
mozda to upali

:D Dobra ideja

Hektorović wrote:

prckov wrote:nist
ne povecaju cijenu tog svog proizvoda sa $2000
na $20 000
mozda to upali

:D Dobra ideja

jebote ponasaju se koda je mobajl danas neko nevideno cudo koje niko nije vidio a I niko drugi ga ne pravi
sta su ocekivali sa takvom cijenom za obicni digitron 
malo bolji doduse

prckov wrote:nist
ne povecaju cijenu tog svog proizvoda sa $2000
na $20 000
mozda to upali

Upalilo bi u USA, u Kini ga naprave za 20 dolara i nazovu Majphone

Ali i iphone je nesiguran jer radi za američku vladu, druka privatne informacije i sl :p

n_razbojnik wrote:Upalilo bi u USA, u Kini ga naprave za 20 dolara i nazovu Majphone

Fora je u tome da danas najbolji Huawei čak i ima bolji Hardware... Kinezi radije uzimaju svoj domaći statusni simbol.

mislim da je najveći problem zapravo to što izostaju prave inovacije otkad nema jobsa

donald duck nema nikakve veze s ovim rezultatima , svoje je napravio
vratio proizvodnju u USA i naredio kinezima da kupuju

Hektorović wrote:

n_razbojnik wrote:Upalilo bi u USA, u Kini ga naprave za 20 dolara i nazovu Majphone

Fora je u tome da danas najbolji Huawei čak i ima bolji Hardware... Kinezi radije uzimaju svoj domaći statusni simbol.

Ja kada sam ovde preporučivao Huawei, rekli su da je sramota izvaditi kineza na sto pred društvom. Sada je najbolji Xiaomi Pocophone F1. Cena se kreće oko 300 dolara a telefon jebe mame.

marcellus wrote:mislim da je najveći problem zapravo to što izostaju prave inovacije otkad nema jobsa

Tim Cook je bean counter... Jobs je tako dobro postavio stvari da se stvar kotrljala 7 godina nakon njegove smrti... No kinezi su barem po hardwareu sustigli i prešišali... a i google je poprilično uštimao Android...




Young Beijing shoppers’ appetite for latest iPhones wanes

Many holding on to older models while eyeing up domestic rivals for next upgrade

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There were long queues around the block when Apple opened its first store in China, in Beijing’s trendy Sanlitun shopping district, in 2008.
But over a decade later, while many of the young shoppers in Sanlitun are still iPhone users, their once-unwavering loyalty to the brand has dimmed.
Apple’s smartphones used to be a status symbol, an exclusive and foreign luxury item. But domestic competitors, especially Huawei, now appear to have caught up — not just on technological innovations such as dual Sim cards and edge-to-edge screens, but also in terms of prestige.
“Apple is no longer a luxury symbol in China,” said Cheng Yu, a 22-year-old undergraduate who has been using iPhones for over eight years, but who now plans to use a top-range Huawei as well as her current iPhone. 
“I'll consider Huawei or Apple for my next purchase, since those are the high-end phones nowadays,” added Chris Wu, a 26-year-old working in finance, who was browsing inside a small Huawei shop not far from Apple’s flagship store. He noted, however, that Apple’s operating system remains more aesthetically pleasing than Android.

Two years ago, Huawei overtook Apple to become the most popular brand for buyers’ next purchases, according to [url=safari-reader://www.ft.com/content/4f03b122-feeb-11e8-aebf-99e208d3e521]research by FT Confidential[/url].
“Apple is teetering on the brink of [url=safari-reader://www.ft.com/content/6ff71730-0f16-11e9-a3aa-118c761d2745]losing its position as the premier brand[/url]. As soon as someone can replace Apple, it’ll be toppled within minutes,” said Erin Li, a 33-year-old medical worker who was experimenting with selfies on her iPhone 8s. 
That sense of user fickleness was evident among the long-term iPhone users who were considering switching brands. Both Ms Li and Ms Cheng described Huawei’s ability to create hype around its products, especially the Mate 20, as important pull factors. 


Erin Li: 'As soon as someone can replace Apple, it’ll be toppled within minutes'
But technological innovations, as well as hype, were also important draws. “The main problem is battery life. For my next phone I would go for Huawei or Apple. Huawei is just as high end as Apple these days,” said Ronnie Wang, a 35-year-old law firm employee and an iPhone user for the past five years. 
Ms Li, who has used iPhones for four years, is considering leaving Apple for Smartisan Technology, a small Chinese brand. “Other waterdrop full-screens are just much better than Apple's newest screens,” she said, referring to the screens pioneered by domestic competitors like Oppo that only have a “waterdrop” of space not covered by the screen to fit a front facing camera.

Meanwhile, many of the shoppers were happy to remain on older models of the iPhone and did not feel the need to move on to Apple’s latest devices. Liu Jian said that his iPhone 6, which he bought a year ago, remained perfectly usable. “Android phones would slow down over time but so far the iPhone hasn’t,” he said.

dzango wrote:

Hektorović wrote:

n_razbojnik wrote:Upalilo bi u USA, u Kini ga naprave za 20 dolara i nazovu Majphone

Fora je u tome da danas najbolji Huawei čak i ima bolji Hardware... Kinezi radije uzimaju svoj domaći statusni simbol.

Ja kada sam ovde preporučivao Huawei, rekli su da je sramota izvaditi kineza na sto pred društvom. Sada je najbolji Xiaomi Pocophone F1. Cena se kreće oko 300 dolara a telefon jebe mame.

Realno Huawei je prije 4-5 godina bio totalno smeće... plastika, neoptimiziran, loš skin za android... 

Prošle godine sam dobio besplatno jednog i šokirao me napredak, prije neki dan sam uzeo još novijeg i vidi se još dalji napredak... A za ovu godinu imaju agresivan roadmap dok je Apple postao preskup i uspavan... Ovo je i kazna podizanja cijene osnovog modela sa 750$ na 1000$...



Mislim se probati i Xiaomi, ajde možda i uzmem Pocophone 2 kad izađe...

Hektorović wrote:

marcellus wrote:mislim da je najveći problem zapravo to što izostaju prave inovacije otkad nema jobsa

Tim Cook je bean counter...

najveća inovacija na iphoneu otkad više nema jobsa je što su ukinuli priključak za slušalice.

u osnovi, iphone X se jedva razlikuje dizajnerski i tehnološki od iphonea V ili VI.

cijene su išle gore, a proizvod je samo postao malo veći i to je sve. Mobiteli su high tech tržište gdje se stvari mijenjaju jako brzo, a apple ne samo da kasni s inovacijama nego više nije ultimativni hipsterski statusni simbol

jobs je znao od govna napravit statusni simbol i poželjan item, nitko danas u appleu nema instinkt za to.

Prije bi spalio lovu nego je toliko dao za iphone. Za tu lovu možeš godinu dana piti dobra vina ili si priuštiti kazan za rakiju ili pogurati djecu na studiju.... debelo precjenjena roba i podržavam bojkot kineza u tom smislu.

realno iphone je dobar i u dosta toga bolji od androida, ali preskup i više nije poseban

marcellus wrote:

Hektorović wrote:

marcellus wrote:mislim da je najveći problem zapravo to što izostaju prave inovacije otkad nema jobsa

Tim Cook je bean counter...

najveća inovacija na iphoneu otkad više nema jobsa je što su ukinuli priključak za slušalice.

u osnovi, iphone X se jedva razlikuje dizajnerski i tehnološki od iphonea V ili VI.

cijene su išle gore, a proizvod je samo postao malo veći i to je sve. Mobiteli su high tech tržište gdje se stvari mijenjaju jako brzo, a apple ne samo da kasni s inovacijama nego više nije ultimativni hipsterski statusni simbol

Zadnje 3 godine su digli cijene za nekih 30%... i kupali se u zaradi, no sad je tome došao kraj... vidim veliki blowback i na zapadu, ne samo u Kini... Ljudi ne žele telefon koji počinje od 1000$... 

Kao sigurno tržište ostaje im samo USA, gdje se i najviše koristi iMessage pa su ljudi "lockedin" u njihovom ekosustavu...

marcellus wrote:jobs je znao od govna napravit statusni simbol i poželjan item, nitko danas u appleu nema instinkt za to.

To je i glavni problem, prolazile bi i ove cijene da ima nekadašnji status... no jednostavno "magije više nema"... 

Očito će Cook morati otići, samo pitanje koliko će firma još stagnirati dok do toga dođe...