Paralizirana Njemačka

RayMabus wrote:Zanimljivo je da sam ja na forumu prije više od pola godine sve točno predvidio doduše ona Jamajka koalicija me iznenadila no do nje nije došlo nego baš kako sam ja to opisa 

CDU-CSU oko 33%

SPD oko 20%

CSU sigurno ima bar 4% glasova i u slučaju velikog terorističkog napada izlaze iz vlade i Merkel pada

RayMabus wrote:
CSU sigurno ima bar 4% glasova i u slučaju velikog terorističkog napada izlaze iz vlade i Merkel pada

Fénix wrote:Kreće lagano ali sigurno, a bijedni Nijemci uskoro će doživjeti fijasko sa svojim daleko bijednijim vrijednostima i načinom razmišljanja. Isuse Bože, koja je to samo sloboda i demokracija...


German Interior Minister drafts law to spy on all digital devices – report

Published time: 3 Dec, 2017 14:04



Germany’s Interior Minister wants secret backdoor access to computers, phones and even Volkswagens, according to a media report. Critics have slammed his plan as an “Orwellian nightmare.”

Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere plans to argue “the legal duty for third parties to allow for secret surveillance” during an interior ministry conference in Leipzig next week. The proposal would “dramatically extend” the state’s powers to spy on its citizens, according to the RedaktionsNetzwerk Deutschland (RND) report.

Read more
​Germany is NSA’s primary host of surveillance architecture in Europe – report


If signed into law, de Maiziere’s proposal would allow German security services to spy on any device connected to the internet. Tech companies would be compelled to provide the state with backdoor access to most digital consumer devices, including private tablets, computers and even televisions and cars. However, German authorities would need the authorization of a judge before tapping into a compromised consumer device.

According to media, the German interior minister feels such legislation is necessary because the rise of encryption and other security systems has hindered digital intelligence gathering and surveillance.

The plan to expand state snooping powers has raised eyebrows in a country that within living memory has suffered under some of the most ruthless, all-pervasive surveillance in history – from both the Nazi Gestapo and the East German Stasi.

“The Interior Minister’s plans sound like an Orwellian nightmare. Soon all flats in Germany will be equipped with devices which are potential wiretaps,” Konstantin von Notz, deputy faction leader of the Green Party, told Der Spiegel.

Read more
German intel service spied on foreign media incl BBC, Reuters for years – Spiegel



“We need to think really hard about the fact that we are a country with two dictatorships in its recent history. Do we want to live in a land where there is no privacy and where the state can interfere wherever it is technologically possible?” he asked.

Bundestag member and Secretary General of the Bavarian State Association of the Social Democratic Party (SPD), Uli Grötsch, said that Germans should be wary of more surveillance in the name of security. “More intervention and monitoring does not automatically mean more security,” he said, as cited by Der Spiegel.

Despite opposition to the proposed backdoor, Germany already boasts comprehensive, and sometimes undisclosed, surveillance powers.

The US National Security Agency not only spies on German citizens, but also houses the agency’s key European data centers, Der Spiegel revealed in 2014. More recently, in February of this year, the magazine reported that Germany’s Federal Intelligence Service (BND) had spied on western news media outlets and international news agencies for years.

Even encrypted German data isn’t safe: In June, Germany passed a controversial law that expands the state’s ability to monitor encrypted material sent via message services such as WhatsApp and Skype.


https://www.rt.com/news/411795-orwellian-nightmare-german-spying/

RayMabus wrote:CSU sigurno ima bar 4% glasova i u slučaju velikog terorističkog napada izlaze iz vlade i Merkel pada

slidingdoorsoperator wrote:

RayMabus wrote:CSU sigurno ima bar 4% glasova i u slučaju velikog terorističkog napada izlaze iz vlade i Merkel pada

46 mandata u Bundestagu od ukupno 709.
CDU 200 mandata.

pismejker wrote:Kasnis..puno..vec je zakonom dozvoljeno drzavi,odnosno policiji das ti instalira Bundestroianera na Komp/Tablet/Smurtfoun,ako procijeni da za to ima osnove,a bez suckog naloga..
U sustini podrzavam,jer pored ovolikog broja Kozojeba u svabiji,to je jedini nacin da se sprijeci teroristicko djelovanje...

gole cure i posjecivanje pornoportala,svakako nije usmjereno protiv drzave..reci ce jos ..na,na..samo vi nastavite,izvinite na smetnji..

RayMabus wrote:

slidingdoorsoperator wrote:

RayMabus wrote:CSU sigurno ima bar 4% glasova i u slučaju velikog terorističkog napada izlaze iz vlade i Merkel pada

46 mandata u Bundestagu od ukupno 709.
CDU 200 mandata.

Da to je onda više od 4% dakle sasvim sigurno ako istupe iz vlade, vlada pada jer neće imati većinu tj više od 50% podrške

Fénix wrote:Novi izbori i novi kandidat CDU-a je jedino rješenje za ovo. A. Merkel je prošlost već 3-4 godine i prilično je nesposobna, teški simbol slabosti i lutanja današnjih europskih država.

pismejker wrote:

Fénix wrote:


https://www.rt.com/news/411795-orwellian-nightmare-german-spying/

 

gole cure i posjecivanje pornoportala,svakako nije usmjereno protiv drzave..reci ce jos ..na,na..samo vi nastavite,izvinite na smetnji..

pismejker wrote:Prikupljenim podacima bundespolicaja,od strane kozojepskih sredstava komunikacije,je otkrivena i namjera da se na Vajnahtsmarkt postavi bomba..
Dakle,kontrole mora biti..

michaellcmacha wrote:

pismejker wrote:

Fénix wrote:


https://www.rt.com/news/411795-orwellian-nightmare-german-spying/

 

gole cure i posjecivanje pornoportala,svakako nije usmjereno protiv drzave..reci ce jos ..na,na..samo vi nastavite,izvinite na smetnji..

pa koji će ti kurac pornoportali ako imaš ru(j)ku, ajde de golice moš skinut i na bezeveze sajtovima... inače tebi za informaciju mujadini su evidentirani kao najčešći posjetitelji poronoportala i najintenzivnije koriste i skidaju porno sadržaje... pa se ti misli gdje si u toj priči... ;)