Američki dobrovoljci ogorčeni izdajom Kurda

http://www.advance.hr/vijesti/ogorceni-americki-dobrovoljac-medu-kurdskim-ypg-snagama-sad-su-nas-izdali-njihova-potpora-turskoj-intervenciji-je-pljuska-kurdima-i-nama-dobrovoljcima-koji-smo-zajedno-s-kurdima-ginuli-u-oslobadanju-manbija/

americki dobrovoljci? moze li ih se izbrojati na prste jedne ruke?

tipične političke igre i preslagivanja u ratu, koje oni na terenu i pod oružjem rijetko podržavaju i imaju razumijevanja

Kurdi još jučer tvrde da se neće povući, Turska dovlači još vojske i tenkova i skupa sa snagama opozicije osvajaju Jarabulus, USA danas tvrdi da se Kurdi povlače istočno od Eufrata, kako bi zadržali američku potporu i učvrstili osvojeni dio uz sjevernu sirijsku granicu

Kurdi su trenutno u lošoj situaciji, bez američke potpore teško bi se (iz)borili s dva neprijatelja, s ISIS-om i Turcima

http://aranews.net/2016/08/analysts-kurdish-position-precarious-jarabulus-operation/

Michael Stephens, Research Fellow for Middle East Studies and Head of RUSI Qatar, told ARA News that it’s clear that the Kurds cannot advance more forward towards Jarabulus or al-Bab. 
“But I do think it’s clear the US has come to the conclusion that the Kurds have gone as far west as they need to,” Stephens said.

“Ultimately there has been frustration at the lack of planning to push further south and the US has tried, mainly by withholding airstrikes to push the [Kurdish-led] SDF into focusing on ISIS supply lines, and not simply taking territory for the sake of building a new Kurdish state,” he added.
“The recent push toward al-Bab appears a step too far. And in the context of poor relations with Turkey, the US has needed to take a harder line with Syria’s Kurds,” Stephens told ARA News.

“The SDF [Syrian Democratic Forces] and YPG are still the most successful force in fighting and holding land against ISIS, and whilever that equation remains they will receive US support,” he said.

However, Stephens warned the Kurds to play their cards well. “The situation for Syria’s Kurds looks a little precarious and they will need to play a careful balancing act if they are to avoid overreaching and triggering more offensives by Turkey into Syria,” he said.

Da tocno. U suštini Erdogan priskocio u pomoc ISILu jer ce zauzet to malo uz granicu al to u prevodu znaci ovo : ISIL ce imati više vojske da protjera Kurde koji su zbog te iste Turske izgubili americku potporu u tom dijelu zapadno od rijeke.

PS : Ne znam koliko forumaši geldaju kartu i o kome se prostoru radi pa ako ne onda pratite i to jer je bitno.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_and_towns_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War

[th]Manbij offensive (2016)[/th]

Part of the Syrian Civil War, the Syrian Kurdish–Islamist conflict, and the American-led intervention in Syria

Map showing SDF territorial gains during the offensive

Neve wrote:tipične političke igre i preslagivanja u ratu, koje oni na terenu i pod oružjem rijetko podržavaju i imaju razumijevanja

Kurdi još jučer tvrde da se neće povući, Turska dovlači još vojske i tenkova i skupa sa snagama opozicije osvajaju Jarabulus, USA danas tvrdi da se Kurdi povlače istočno od Eufrata, kako bi zadržali američku potporu i učvrstili osvojeni dio uz sjevernu sirijsku granicu

Kurdi su trenutno u lošoj situaciji, bez američke potpore teško bi se (iz)borili s dva neprijatelja, s ISIS-om i Turcima

http://aranews.net/2016/08/analysts-kurdish-position-precarious-jarabulus-operation/

Michael Stephens, Research Fellow for Middle East Studies and Head of RUSI Qatar, told ARA News that it’s clear that the Kurds cannot advance more forward towards Jarabulus or al-Bab. 
“But I do think it’s clear the US has come to the conclusion that the Kurds have gone as far west as they need to,” Stephens said.

“Ultimately there has been frustration at the lack of planning to push further south and the US has tried, mainly by withholding airstrikes to push the [Kurdish-led] SDF into focusing on ISIS supply lines, and not simply taking territory for the sake of building a new Kurdish state,” he added.
“The recent push toward al-Bab appears a step too far. And in the context of poor relations with Turkey, the US has needed to take a harder line with Syria’s Kurds,” Stephens told ARA News.

“The SDF [Syrian Democratic Forces] and YPG are still the most successful force in fighting and holding land against ISIS, and whilever that equation remains they will receive US support,” he said.

However, Stephens warned the Kurds to play their cards well. “The situation for Syria’s Kurds looks a little precarious and they will need to play a careful balancing act if they are to avoid overreaching and triggering more offensives by Turkey into Syria,” he said.

Pa ne baš, zapravo tipične za SAD-e, ali koliko vidim po twiteru Turci su tamo da sjebu Kurde, dovedu Al Kaidu (jer to su upravo "pobunjenici"), a vidim da su Turci sa ISIL-om dogovorili predaju Jarabulusa, u biti Kurdi su krvarili da bi sve to predali al kaidi i Turcima, a sada misle da će Kurdi ići na juriš na Raqqu što je toliko malo vjerojatno.

U biti ovdje se gazi Kurde, jača Turska i al kiada, a ISIL se spašava od nestanka, to sve je vjerojatno uz znanje i odobravanje Rusa

RayMabus wrote:Da tocno. U suštini Erdogan priskocio u pomoc ISILu jer ce zauzet to malo uz granicu al to u prevodu znaci ovo : ISIL ce imati više vojske da protjera Kurde koji su zbog te iste Turske izgubili americku potporu u tom dijelu zapadno od rijeke.

PS : Ne znam koliko forumaši geldaju kartu i o kome se prostoru radi pa ako ne onda pratite i to jer je bitno.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_and_towns_during_the_Syrian_Civil_War

[th]Manbij offensive (2016)[/th]

Part of the Syrian Civil War, the Syrian Kurdish–Islamist conflict, and the American-led intervention in Syria

Map showing SDF territorial gains during the offensive

Istina ovo je u biti ispomoć ISIL-u koji će i dalje imat prolaz za logistiku, samo isti neće morati čuvati, već će moći premjestiti sredstva dalje...