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Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Kermit 28/6/2016, 07:03
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3662827/Has-Britain-avoided-European-superstate-France-Germany-draw-plans-morph-EU-countries-one-control-members-armies-economies.html?ito=social-facebook
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Kermit 28/6/2016, 07:03
Has Britain avoided a ‘European superstate’? France and Germany ‘draw up plans to morph EU countries into one with control over members’ armies and economies’
Plans for 'a closer European Union' have been branded an attempt to create a 'European superstate'.
Germany's foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and his French counterpart Jean-Marc Ayrault today presented a proposal for closer EU integration based on three key areas - internal and external security, the migrant crisis, and economic cooperation.
But the plans have been described as an 'ultimatum' in Poland, with claims it would mean countries transfer their armies, economic systems and border controls to the EU.
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Foreign ministers of France and Germany are said to have drawn up a blueprint for a 'European superstate' as leaders Francois Hollande (left) and Angela Merkel (centre) met with Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi (right) tonight for crisis talks after the Brexit vote
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The plans have been 'leaked' to a Polish television channel and the country's foreign minister Witold Waszczykowski, pictured, is said to be 'outraged'
Zaoralek added that the four eastern members had reservations about the proposed common security policy.
Eastern members have become increasingly jittery on security issues since Moscow used so-called "hybrid warfare", or undeclared covert tactics - to annex the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine in 2014.
Poland's public TVP described the Franco-German proposal as an "ultimatum" designed to create a European "superstate dominated by large nations."
Ayrault described the Franco-German proposal as a "contribution", adding that there would be "others".
According to the Daily Express, the nine-page report has 'outraged' its foreign minister Witold Waszczykowski.
He said: 'This is not a good solution, of course, because from the time the EU was invented a lot has changed.
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- France and Germany reported to have drawn up 'superstate plan'
- It would mean members give up armies and economic power to the EU
- Report 'leaked' in Poland where it has been branded 'not the solution'
- Leaders of Germany, France and Italy said EU was 'indispensable' tonight
Plans for 'a closer European Union' have been branded an attempt to create a 'European superstate'.
Germany's foreign minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier and his French counterpart Jean-Marc Ayrault today presented a proposal for closer EU integration based on three key areas - internal and external security, the migrant crisis, and economic cooperation.
But the plans have been described as an 'ultimatum' in Poland, with claims it would mean countries transfer their armies, economic systems and border controls to the EU.
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Foreign ministers of France and Germany are said to have drawn up a blueprint for a 'European superstate' as leaders Francois Hollande (left) and Angela Merkel (centre) met with Italian Prime Minister Matteo Renzi (right) tonight for crisis talks after the Brexit vote
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The plans have been 'leaked' to a Polish television channel and the country's foreign minister Witold Waszczykowski, pictured, is said to be 'outraged'
Zaoralek added that the four eastern members had reservations about the proposed common security policy.
Eastern members have become increasingly jittery on security issues since Moscow used so-called "hybrid warfare", or undeclared covert tactics - to annex the Crimean peninsula from Ukraine in 2014.
Poland's public TVP described the Franco-German proposal as an "ultimatum" designed to create a European "superstate dominated by large nations."
Ayrault described the Franco-German proposal as a "contribution", adding that there would be "others".
According to the Daily Express, the nine-page report has 'outraged' its foreign minister Witold Waszczykowski.
He said: 'This is not a good solution, of course, because from the time the EU was invented a lot has changed.
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Kermit 28/6/2016, 07:03
'The mood in European societies is different. Europe and our voters do not want to give the Union over into the hands of technocrats.'
The Express reports the document says France and Germany will 'strive for a political union in Europe' and 'invite the next Europeans to participate'.
It comes after the UK voted to leave the EU in a landmark referendum last week, causing shockwaves across Europe.
The result has prompted right-wing European parties in France and Eastern Europe to suggest similar votes, with the EU criticised for its 'federalism' and European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker blamed for Brexit within the organisation.
In a joint statement tonight the leaders of Germany, France and Italy say the European Union 'must dedicate itself to the worries expressed by its citizens.'
In their statement Monday, the three leaders said that the EU is a success and that the bloc is indispensable in securing 'the economic and social progress for our people, and to assert Europe's role in the world.'
But German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Hollande and Italian Premier Matteo Renzi acknowledged that the EU can only advance if it is supported by its people.
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The trio of European leaders were meeting in Berlin, pictured, and they said the EU was a 'success' and 'indispensable in securing the economic and social progress for our people'
The union and especially its policy makers in Brussels have often been criticized for being detached from ordinary people's worries - a sentiment that has led to a strengthening of anti-EU movements in several of its member states.
Meanwhile Poland would like to see Britain hold a second in-out referendum on its membership of the EU, the country's ruling party leader said today.
Jaroslaw Kaczynski, the powerful leader of Poland's conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, said the bloc would have to 'radically change' in order for Britons to want to return.
The former Prime Minister said that the 'idea for today... foresees efforts aimed at making Britain return' which included a second referendum.
But, he cautioned, the 'EU would have to radically change' for this scenario to be feasible.
Meanwhile the result continues to cause deep divisions within the UK, with departing Prime Minister David Cameron and Chancellor George Osborne criticised for a lack of leadership, while Leave campaign figurehead Boris Johnson has also come under fire for 'backtracking' on arguments he made in favour of Brexit.
A petition demanding a second referendum on the issue has now exceeded 3.7million signatures, although tens of thousands have revealed to have been falsely registers to the Vatican City, which has a population of just 840.
The Express reports the document says France and Germany will 'strive for a political union in Europe' and 'invite the next Europeans to participate'.
It comes after the UK voted to leave the EU in a landmark referendum last week, causing shockwaves across Europe.
The result has prompted right-wing European parties in France and Eastern Europe to suggest similar votes, with the EU criticised for its 'federalism' and European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker blamed for Brexit within the organisation.
In a joint statement tonight the leaders of Germany, France and Italy say the European Union 'must dedicate itself to the worries expressed by its citizens.'
In their statement Monday, the three leaders said that the EU is a success and that the bloc is indispensable in securing 'the economic and social progress for our people, and to assert Europe's role in the world.'
But German Chancellor Angela Merkel, French President Hollande and Italian Premier Matteo Renzi acknowledged that the EU can only advance if it is supported by its people.
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The trio of European leaders were meeting in Berlin, pictured, and they said the EU was a 'success' and 'indispensable in securing the economic and social progress for our people'
The union and especially its policy makers in Brussels have often been criticized for being detached from ordinary people's worries - a sentiment that has led to a strengthening of anti-EU movements in several of its member states.
Meanwhile Poland would like to see Britain hold a second in-out referendum on its membership of the EU, the country's ruling party leader said today.
Jaroslaw Kaczynski, the powerful leader of Poland's conservative Law and Justice (PiS) party, said the bloc would have to 'radically change' in order for Britons to want to return.
The former Prime Minister said that the 'idea for today... foresees efforts aimed at making Britain return' which included a second referendum.
But, he cautioned, the 'EU would have to radically change' for this scenario to be feasible.
Meanwhile the result continues to cause deep divisions within the UK, with departing Prime Minister David Cameron and Chancellor George Osborne criticised for a lack of leadership, while Leave campaign figurehead Boris Johnson has also come under fire for 'backtracking' on arguments he made in favour of Brexit.
A petition demanding a second referendum on the issue has now exceeded 3.7million signatures, although tens of thousands have revealed to have been falsely registers to the Vatican City, which has a population of just 840.
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Kermit 28/6/2016, 07:06
Plenković sigurno ovo podržava hehehe iako nije niti pročitao
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Kermit 28/6/2016, 07:12
The public broadcaster reports that the bombshell proposal will be presented to a meeting of the Visegrad group of countries - made up of Poland, the Czech Republic, Hungary and Slovakia - by German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier later today.
Excerpts of the nine-page report were published today as the leaders of Germany, France and Italy met in Berlin for Brexit crisis talks.
In the preamble to the text the two ministers write: "Our countries share a common destiny and a common set of values ??that give rise to an even closer union between our citizens. We will therefore strive for a political union in Europe and invite the next Europeans to participate in this venture."
The revelations come just days after Britain shook the Brussels establishment by voting to leave the European Union in a move some have predicted could leave to the break-up of the EU.
A number of member states are deeply unhappy about the creeping federalism of the European project with anti-EU sentiments running high in eastern Europe, Scandinavia and France.
Excerpts of the nine-page report were published today as the leaders of Germany, France and Italy met in Berlin for Brexit crisis talks.
In the preamble to the text the two ministers write: "Our countries share a common destiny and a common set of values ??that give rise to an even closer union between our citizens. We will therefore strive for a political union in Europe and invite the next Europeans to participate in this venture."
The revelations come just days after Britain shook the Brussels establishment by voting to leave the European Union in a move some have predicted could leave to the break-up of the EU.
A number of member states are deeply unhappy about the creeping federalism of the European project with anti-EU sentiments running high in eastern Europe, Scandinavia and France.
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Kermit 28/6/2016, 07:13
Responding to the plot Polish Foreign Minister Witold Waszczykowski raged: "This is not a good solution, of course, because from the time the EU was invented a lot has changed.
“The mood in European societies is different. Europe and our voters do not want to give the Union over into the hands of technocrats.
“Therefore, I want to talk about this, whether this really is the right recipe right now in the context of a Brexit."
There are deep divides at the heart of the EU at the moment over how to proceed with the project in light of the Brexit vote.
Some figures have cautioned against trying to force through further political integration, warning that to do so against the wishes of the European people will only fuel further Eurosceptic feeling.
“The mood in European societies is different. Europe and our voters do not want to give the Union over into the hands of technocrats.
“Therefore, I want to talk about this, whether this really is the right recipe right now in the context of a Brexit."
There are deep divides at the heart of the EU at the moment over how to proceed with the project in light of the Brexit vote.
Some figures have cautioned against trying to force through further political integration, warning that to do so against the wishes of the European people will only fuel further Eurosceptic feeling.
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Kermit 28/6/2016, 07:16
ta lajpciška vještica nikad ne staje sa sranjima iz jednog u drugo
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Kermit 28/6/2016, 07:51
hehhehekic wrote:po dailymailu ofc
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by RayMabus 28/6/2016, 07:53
Asila otvara ove teme na engleski nebi da smo svi Englezi. Skratite pricu : O cemu se tocno radi ?
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Clone Stormtrooper 28/6/2016, 17:00
i treci Reich je bio planiran da bude super!
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Kermit 28/6/2016, 21:47
https://www.corbettreport.com/eu-unmasked-after-brexit-plans-for-full-eu-superstate-revealed/
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Kermit 28/6/2016, 21:52
A European Security Compact, including an expansion of internal “security” through a strengthened Europol, and expansion of external “security” in areas like North Africa and the Middle East through coordination with the African Union, G5 and other globalist counterparts.
A Common European asylum and migration policy, including the expansion of FRONTEX with permanent, dedicated EU-supplied staff, and the creation of a European Asylum Agency tasked with standardizing the registration of asylum seekers and hosting joint EU-controlled databases.
A Completed Economic and Monetary Union, including “convergence between member states” in strategic sectors of the economy, the development of a European Monetary Fund presided over by EU parliament, and continued moves toward “common taxation.”
Even more stunningly, the paper actually proposes a standing EU-directed military chain of command, up to and including standing European armed forces:
“The EU will need to take action more often in order to manage crises that directly affect its own security. We therefore need stronger and more flexible crisis prevention and crisis management capabilities. The EU should be able to plan and conduct civil and military operations more effectively, with the support of a permanent civil-military chain of command. The EU should be able to rely on employable high-readiness forces and provide common financing for its operations. Within the framework of the EU, member states willing to establish permanent structured cooperation in the field of defence or to push ahead to launch operations should be able to do so in a flexible manner. If needed, EU member states should consider establishing standing maritime forces or acquiring EU-owned capabilities in other key areas.”
A Common European asylum and migration policy, including the expansion of FRONTEX with permanent, dedicated EU-supplied staff, and the creation of a European Asylum Agency tasked with standardizing the registration of asylum seekers and hosting joint EU-controlled databases.
A Completed Economic and Monetary Union, including “convergence between member states” in strategic sectors of the economy, the development of a European Monetary Fund presided over by EU parliament, and continued moves toward “common taxation.”
Even more stunningly, the paper actually proposes a standing EU-directed military chain of command, up to and including standing European armed forces:
“The EU will need to take action more often in order to manage crises that directly affect its own security. We therefore need stronger and more flexible crisis prevention and crisis management capabilities. The EU should be able to plan and conduct civil and military operations more effectively, with the support of a permanent civil-military chain of command. The EU should be able to rely on employable high-readiness forces and provide common financing for its operations. Within the framework of the EU, member states willing to establish permanent structured cooperation in the field of defence or to push ahead to launch operations should be able to do so in a flexible manner. If needed, EU member states should consider establishing standing maritime forces or acquiring EU-owned capabilities in other key areas.”
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Re: Procurio merkelicin plan super EU!!!
by Regoč 29/6/2016, 08:58
Djelomično se slažem: vanjsku politiku, obranu (zasnovanu na jedinstvenoj europskoj vojsci), financije, monetarne poslove i privrjedne odnose s inozemstvom zabraniti kao ovlasti državah članicah. Ostalo nek se usuglašuje, ovisno o pitanju, jednoglasnošću ili dvostukom većinom (većina građanah u većini državah).
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