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Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Trinity 22/3/2020, 13:10
During a Pandemic, Who Will Keep Us Fed?
Across the globe, politicians, wanting to appear proactive and in charge, are making sweeping decisions not so unlike the actions taken by Duterte.
And it is safe to say that “non-medical people” are calling the shots, making political decisions that may or may not be in the best interest of public safety. But I’m neither a doctor nor a scientist specializing in infectious disease, so I’m not particularly qualified to discuss the best precautionary measures to minimize the human toll of the pandemic.
I do think it makes sense to isolate yourself as much as possible, if you can afford to do so. Don’t take unnecessary risks, and be super-cautious to not expose others to any threat of the virus. Read up on the best medical advice available, and do everything you can. This is what responsible folks do.
I may not be a doctor, but I do know something about economics. I know that there is a link, globally, between economic prosperity and health. And I also know that non-economists with lots of discretionary authority are making monumental economic decisions that will cause tremendous supply disruptions. Unintentionally, these top-down directives will also do harm to our health by undermining our ability to deal with COVID-19 and the many other challenges we will face because of it. Consider, for instance, the creation of new and needed medical innovations, like tests and treatments, and whether or not the government allows them to be available. What about the supply of hospital beds for patients, and the health care professionals and trained staff to treat them? These are ultimately questions about available resources, costs, competitive prices based on demand, supply chains, regulatory barriers, and the labor market for doctors, nurses, and technicians.
Across the globe, politicians, wanting to appear proactive and in charge, are making sweeping decisions not so unlike the actions taken by Duterte.
And it is safe to say that “non-medical people” are calling the shots, making political decisions that may or may not be in the best interest of public safety. But I’m neither a doctor nor a scientist specializing in infectious disease, so I’m not particularly qualified to discuss the best precautionary measures to minimize the human toll of the pandemic.
I do think it makes sense to isolate yourself as much as possible, if you can afford to do so. Don’t take unnecessary risks, and be super-cautious to not expose others to any threat of the virus. Read up on the best medical advice available, and do everything you can. This is what responsible folks do.
I may not be a doctor, but I do know something about economics. I know that there is a link, globally, between economic prosperity and health. And I also know that non-economists with lots of discretionary authority are making monumental economic decisions that will cause tremendous supply disruptions. Unintentionally, these top-down directives will also do harm to our health by undermining our ability to deal with COVID-19 and the many other challenges we will face because of it. Consider, for instance, the creation of new and needed medical innovations, like tests and treatments, and whether or not the government allows them to be available. What about the supply of hospital beds for patients, and the health care professionals and trained staff to treat them? These are ultimately questions about available resources, costs, competitive prices based on demand, supply chains, regulatory barriers, and the labor market for doctors, nurses, and technicians.
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Trinity 22/3/2020, 13:11
Which gets us back to curfews, quarantines, and other forms of government-mandated social isolation. Even people with the means and the flexibility to work from home and fully isolate still need to find ways to provide food and other essential goods and services for their families. And, if they’re unlucky despite the best of precautions, emergency medical services. In other words, like it or not, we are all interdependent on other people still willing, able, and allowed, to do their jobs. That means the entire global supply chain; a distributed network of farmers, ranchers, pickers, packers, truck drivers, shippers, distribution centers, grocery stores, delivery services, and the thousands of other functions I don’t even know about, and untold millions of people with special skills you don’t have.
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Trinity 22/3/2020, 13:12
So when I see politicians mandating, or regular people demanding, as a moral imperative, that all human interaction cease immediately until the risk of infection ends, I know that they are probably not considering the consequences of such a policy. They are likely not thinking about, or are totally unaware of, the incredibly complex division of labor and distributed responsibilities that drive our prosperous modern economy. Millions, even billions of people you don’t know, are all working together constantly to ensure that each of us gets what we want and need to sustain our lives. We all contribute to this beautiful process, each of us deciding for our own selves, who does what best.
Something I read about all of the proposed measures to battle COVID-19 reminded me of a favorite passage from the book Economic Sophisms, by French economist Frédéric Bastiat. Here, writing in the mid 1800’s, he asks: Who keeps Paris fed? And why is it that so few Parisians seem a bit concerned about the process that keeps them fed?
Something I read about all of the proposed measures to battle COVID-19 reminded me of a favorite passage from the book Economic Sophisms, by French economist Frédéric Bastiat. Here, writing in the mid 1800’s, he asks: Who keeps Paris fed? And why is it that so few Parisians seem a bit concerned about the process that keeps them fed?
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Guest 22/3/2020, 13:12
Pa..hrane ima...par tajuzenki sam "spalio" na sve potrepstine..od kemije,preko medikamenata,higijene i hrane...sad samo guzicu filati u mirnoj dokolici.. 
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Trinity 22/3/2020, 13:14
One of the many reasons people don’t like economists is that we are always going on about the importance of free exchange, the profound benefits of the division of labor, economic tradeoffs and the unintended problems created by actions motivated, perhaps, by the best of intentions. There is a cost and a benefit to everything, and sometime we are forced to choose. “You can do that, but did you consider that this other thing might happen as a consequence?” In a social media driven society that seems to hunger for quick fixes to complex problems, economic realities can be a real downer. Why, a hashtag trending on Twitter asks, can’t everyone just #StayTheF**kHome? But in a society that depends on the distributed expertise of each and every one of us, I’m willing to be that guy, the one offering unsolicited economic advice: There are unseen, unintended consequences of the currently proposed public policies intended to keep us safe, policies that will make us less safe and less able to take care of ourselves and others that need help.
Be safe out there. And try to stay calm. We can do this, together, provided that we are free, not just the doctors and economists, but all of us, doing what we can, each doing our part.
https://freethepeople.org/during-a-pandemic-who-will-keep-us-fed/
Be safe out there. And try to stay calm. We can do this, together, provided that we are free, not just the doctors and economists, but all of us, doing what we can, each doing our part.
https://freethepeople.org/during-a-pandemic-who-will-keep-us-fed/
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Trinity 22/3/2020, 13:15
A da , kako to ovdje kažu, tipično "hamsteren" ponašanje.Legendovich wrote:Pa..hrane ima...par tajuzenki sam "spalio" na sve potrepstine..od kemije,preko medikamenata,higijene i hrane...sad samo guzicu filati u mirnoj dokolici..
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by RayMabus 22/3/2020, 13:16
Ima hrane , nema para. Karantena je problem. Danas je većina stanovnika urbana i ako nema prihode umiru od gladi.
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Trinity 22/3/2020, 13:17
Pa, ako pročitaš članak, o tome i je riječ. Zatvoriti ljude u 4 zida i onemogućiti im rad.RayMabus wrote:Ima hrane , nema para. Karantena je problem. Danas je većina stanovnika urbana i ako nema prihode umiru od gladi.
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by RayMabus 22/3/2020, 13:19
Pa znan ja to. Nek gladuju.Triny wrote:Pa, ako pročitaš članak, o tome i je riječ.RayMabus wrote:Ima hrane , nema para. Karantena je problem. Danas je većina stanovnika urbana i ako nema prihode umiru od gladi.
Nek traže smanjenje PDV i da im država plaća karantenu kad ju je proglasila.
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by RayMabus 22/3/2020, 13:20
A šta bi ti liberqlko ? Prvo si pustila sve živo pa bi sad pustila virus. E nećeš Boga mi nego traži manji pdv i da država plaća karantenuTriny wrote:Pa, ako pročitaš članak, o tome i je riječ. Zatvoriti ljude u 4 zida i onemogućiti im rad.RayMabus wrote:Ima hrane , nema para. Karantena je problem. Danas je većina stanovnika urbana i ako nema prihode umiru od gladi.
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Trinity 22/3/2020, 13:21
Ma ovo što sad fali nekih proizvoda je ništa prema onome što slijedi nakon ovih drastičnih mjera.RayMabus wrote:Pa znan ja to. Nek gladuju.Triny wrote:Pa, ako pročitaš članak, o tome i je riječ.RayMabus wrote:Ima hrane , nema para. Karantena je problem. Danas je većina stanovnika urbana i ako nema prihode umiru od gladi.
Nek traže smanjenje PDV i da im država plaća karantenu kad ju je proglasila.
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Guest 22/3/2020, 13:21
Pa ..sreco...ovakvbo ili onakvo ponbasanje,svakako je bolje,kad sjednes za stol i imas nesto za pojesti,nego,kad nemas,i ne mosh naraniti bliznjegg svoga..Danas na meniju..Musaka klasicna,Fasiranjci od krumpira,isti takvi od ghovedjeg kosanog mesa,kristalka salata,fine domace kiflice,sa domacim dzemom od sljiva,uprpane u pudercuker..after dis,milkšejk od jagoda..potom,hrkacina par sati,a onda seks po cijelom podu spavace sobe...Triny wrote:A da , kako to ovdje kažu, tipično "hamsteren" ponašanje.Legendovich wrote:Pa..hrane ima...par tajuzenki sam "spalio" na sve potrepstine..od kemije,preko medikamenata,higijene i hrane...sad samo guzicu filati u mirnoj dokolici..
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Trinity 22/3/2020, 13:23
Pa neće država plaćati karantenu. Platit će oni koji rade. A njima ne daju da rade.RayMabus wrote:A šta bi ti liberqlko ? Prvo si pustila sve živo pa bi sad pustila virus. E nećeš Boga mi nego traži manji pdv i da država plaća karantenuTriny wrote:Pa, ako pročitaš članak, o tome i je riječ. Zatvoriti ljude u 4 zida i onemogućiti im rad.RayMabus wrote:Ima hrane , nema para. Karantena je problem. Danas je većina stanovnika urbana i ako nema prihode umiru od gladi.
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Guest 22/3/2020, 13:27
svabija je osigurala 500 miljardi Ojrova iz proracuna za isplatu svima koji su poslani doma od strane firmija...Triny wrote:Pa neće država plaćati karantenu. Platit će oni koji rade. A njima ne daju da rade.RayMabus wrote:A šta bi ti liberqlko ? Prvo si pustila sve živo pa bi sad pustila virus. E nećeš Boga mi nego traži manji pdv i da država plaća karantenuTriny wrote:Pa, ako pročitaš članak, o tome i je riječ. Zatvoriti ljude u 4 zida i onemogućiti im rad.RayMabus wrote:Ima hrane , nema para. Karantena je problem. Danas je većina stanovnika urbana i ako nema prihode umiru od gladi.
doli kod vas u Prijebini..tko zna.,.ne bih se stel mešat..
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Oh_Femder 22/3/2020, 13:28
Legendovich wrote:Pa ..sreco...ovakvbo ili onakvo ponbasanje,svakako je bolje,kad sjednes za stol i imas nesto za pojesti,nego,kad nemas,i ne mosh naraniti bliznjegg svoga..Danas na meniju..Musaka klasicna,Fasiranjci od krumpira,isti takvi od ghovedjeg kosanog mesa,kristalka salata,fine domace kiflice,sa domacim dzemom od sljiva,uprpane u pudercuker..after dis,milkšejk od jagoda..potom,hrkacina par sati,a onda seks po cijelom podu spavace sobe...Triny wrote:A da , kako to ovdje kažu, tipično "hamsteren" ponašanje.Legendovich wrote:Pa..hrane ima...par tajuzenki sam "spalio" na sve potrepstine..od kemije,preko medikamenata,higijene i hrane...sad samo guzicu filati u mirnoj dokolici..
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by epikur37 22/3/2020, 13:29
Vrt sam zasadio, sad još ubacim par koka i jedno prase.
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by RayMabus 22/3/2020, 13:30
To su tvoji snovi. Italija je ugadila proizvodnju danas. Karantena ostaje na snazi , država će plaćat karantenu a vi liberali ćete otić u ropotarnicu povijesti nakon ovoga jer ste krivci za širenje virusa iz Kine u Evropu. Jebo ti profit mater.Triny wrote:Pa neće država plaćati karantenu. Platit će oni koji rade. A njima ne daju da rade.RayMabus wrote:A šta bi ti liberqlko ? Prvo si pustila sve živo pa bi sad pustila virus. E nećeš Boga mi nego traži manji pdv i da država plaća karantenuTriny wrote:Pa, ako pročitaš članak, o tome i je riječ. Zatvoriti ljude u 4 zida i onemogućiti im rad.RayMabus wrote:Ima hrane , nema para. Karantena je problem. Danas je većina stanovnika urbana i ako nema prihode umiru od gladi.
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Trinity 22/3/2020, 13:30
Ajd pročitaj članak, mada čisto sumnjam da bi ga skužio.Legendovich wrote:svabija je osigurala 500 miljardi Ojrova iz proracuna za isplatu svima koji su poslani doma od strane firmija...Triny wrote:Pa neće država plaćati karantenu. Platit će oni koji rade. A njima ne daju da rade.RayMabus wrote:A šta bi ti liberqlko ? Prvo si pustila sve živo pa bi sad pustila virus. E nećeš Boga mi nego traži manji pdv i da država plaća karantenuTriny wrote:Pa, ako pročitaš članak, o tome i je riječ. Zatvoriti ljude u 4 zida i onemogućiti im rad.RayMabus wrote:Ima hrane , nema para. Karantena je problem. Danas je većina stanovnika urbana i ako nema prihode umiru od gladi.
doli kod vas u Prijebini..tko zna.,.ne bih se stel mešat..
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Re: Tko će nas hraniti za vrijeme pandemije
by Trinity 22/3/2020, 13:31
Jelda nisi pročitao članak?RayMabus wrote:To su tvoji snovi. Italija je ugadila proizvodnju danas. Karantena ostaje na snazi , država će plaćat karantenu a vi liberali ćete otić u ropotarnicu povijesti nakon ovoga jer ste krivci za širenje virusa iz Kine u Evropu. Jebo ti profit mater.Triny wrote:Pa neće država plaćati karantenu. Platit će oni koji rade. A njima ne daju da rade.RayMabus wrote:A šta bi ti liberqlko ? Prvo si pustila sve živo pa bi sad pustila virus. E nećeš Boga mi nego traži manji pdv i da država plaća karantenuTriny wrote:Pa, ako pročitaš članak, o tome i je riječ. Zatvoriti ljude u 4 zida i onemogućiti im rad.RayMabus wrote:Ima hrane , nema para. Karantena je problem. Danas je većina stanovnika urbana i ako nema prihode umiru od gladi.
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