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Post by Guest 3/3/2018, 12:45

aben wrote:čini mi se da bi se moglo dopriti do gnječa, samo triba izbjegavati vip stil, biti nježan i pristojan

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Minarhizam je politička filozofija (desnog) libertarijanizma koja zagovara ograničenu državu koja egzistira samo kako bi pružala mali i ograničeni broj usluga građanima. Popularni model državnog minarhizma poznat je pod imenom "night-watchman state" (dosl. prev. država noćni čuvar), a to je model u kojem je država ograničena na usluge zaštite građana od agresije, krađe, neispunjenja ugovora, prevara i drugih kaznenih djela putem instituta vojske, policije i pravosuđa.

Minarchism is a libertarian political philosophy which advocates for the state to exist solely to provide a very small number of services. A popular model of the state proposed by minarchists is known as the night-watchman state, in which the only governmental functions are to protect citizens from aggression, theft, breach of contract and fraud as defined by property laws, limiting it to three institutions: the military, the police and courts. The word "minarchist" was coined by Samuel Edward Konkin III in 1980. It differs from anarchism in that it is not completely based on voluntary association.

Minarchists argue that it is malum in se for a government to interfere in transactions between people by taxing for services not directly related to the protection of citizens.

Some minarchists argue that a state is inevitable, thus believing anarchy to be futile. Minarchists justify the necessity of the state on the grounds that private defence agencies and courts could be biased by unevenly representing the interests of higher paying clients. Robert Nozick, who publicized the idea of a minimal state in Anarchy, State, and Utopia, argued that a night-watchman state provides a framework that allows for any political system that respects fundamental individual rights, and therefore morally justifies the existence of a state.

In libertarian political philosophy, a night-watchman state is a model of a state whose only functions are to provide its citizens with the military, the police and courts, thus protecting them from aggression, theft, breach of contract and fraud and enforcing property laws.

The phrase "Nachtwächterstaat" was coined by German socialist Ferdinand Lassalle in an 1862 speech in Berlin. He criticized the "bourgeois" liberal limited government state, comparing it to a night-watchman whose sole duty was preventing theft. The phrase quickly caught on as a description of capitalist government, even as liberalism began to mean a more progressive state.

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Post by aben 3/3/2018, 13:01

e, zamisli kako bi lipo bilo da se primjerice borba ustaša i jugoslovena više ne vodi na proračunu, nego onako čisto teorijski, nešto ko borbe navijača suprotnih športskih klubova.

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aben wrote:e, zamisli kako bi lipo bilo da se primjerice borba ustaša i jugoslovena više ne vodi na proračunu, nego onako čisto teorijski, nešto ko borbe navijača suprotnih športskih klubova.

ustaše? koji je njihov politički i ekonomski program? govorim o propaloj NDH i današnjim neo ustašama kojima je jedina ideologija rat protiv srba, ostalih nehrvatskih naroda i hrvata koji nisu bili skloni ustaštvu, nacizmu i klerofašizmu. i stvaranje etnički čiste države. to je totalitarni nacionalistički pokret koji se do dolaska na vlast služio terorističkim metodama a na vlasti znamo kojim se metodama koristila ne treba nabrajati i ponavljati ad nauseam...uz to NDH je bila ustrojena klero-fašistički isto kao i današnja RH.

jugoslaveni su svi južni slaveni pa i ustaše.

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Post by kic 3/3/2018, 16:30


citam nesto od Horkheimera, govori kako povecanje slobode izbora sa sobom nosi i povecanje prinude..
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kic wrote:
citam nesto od Horkheimera, govori kako povecanje slobode izbora sa sobom nosi i povecanje prinude..

pojasni to na primjeru trgovačkih centara.
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Post by kic 3/3/2018, 23:24


sloboda izbora se povecala, ali i karakter slobode skupa, zapravo se nalazimo u kanalu izbora koje je vec netko filtrirao za nas..
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Post by Guest 3/4/2018, 12:12

kic wrote:
sloboda izbora se povecala, ali i karakter slobode skupa, zapravo se nalazimo u kanalu izbora koje je vec netko filtrirao za nas..

ovaj odgovor je već znak depresije.
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Post by Guest 3/4/2018, 13:03

Gnjeec! :)

Ne znam sto trkeljat'.
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Post by kic 3/4/2018, 13:07


eh, to nisam nikad nijekao..

promjena u kvaliteti je popratna okolnost, po Horkheimeru naravno, kao s Toblerone cokoladom koji su povecali proreze tj smanjili cokoladu, mi imamo izbor ne kupovati vise ali zamjenu za Toblerone realno nemamo..

zato vecina ljudi spada u pokorne (opet po Horkheineru) a tek mali broj u otpor, jer otpor zahtijeva i aktivnost, trazenje alternativne cokoladice, vecina ljudi su kukavice in short.. nekad se u strasno teskim uvjetima i bjedi sanjala i slagala utopija, ali danas nosioci falange traze slobodnije drustvo, je r savrsenost se ne moze postici..
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Post by Guest 3/4/2018, 13:48

kic wrote:
eh, to nisam nikad nijekao..

promjena u kvaliteti je popratna okolnost, po Horkheimeru naravno, kao s Toblerone cokoladom koji su povecali proreze tj smanjili cokoladu, mi imamo izbor ne kupovati vise ali zamjenu za Toblerone realno nemamo..

zato vecina ljudi spada u pokorne (opet po Horkheineru) a tek mali broj u otpor, jer otpor zahtijeva i aktivnost, trazenje alternativne cokoladice, vecina ljudi su kukavice in short.. nekad se u strasno teskim uvjetima i bjedi sanjala i slagala utopija, ali danas nosioci falange traze slobodnije drustvo, je r savrsenost se ne moze postici..

ne vidim problem osim što toblerone neće više kupovati svi koji su tu čokoladu kupovali prije to znači da će tvornica i vlasnici tvornice otić u pizdu materinu ili će vratit toblerone oriđiđi kakav je bio.

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i tko ti kaže da se ljudi ne bune? možda ovdje u klero fašističkoj udbaškoj vukojebini gdje su horde zla na vlasti ali odi malo po svijetu izađi iz ove septičke jame koju zoveš RH.

'I've been to funerals less upsetting than this!' Fury of chocolate fans as Toblerone's American makers cut the number of iconic triangles to make the bars smaller and blame rising costs
Toblerone has increased gaps between chocolate bar's triangular chunks
The 400g bars will reduce in weight to 360g and 170g bars will go to 150g
Change was made because of 'higher costs for numerous ingredients'
Owner Mondelez said exchange rate was 'not favourable' after Brexit


Chocolate fans have vented their fury after Toblerone increased the gaps between the bar's iconic triangular peaks as a cost-cutting measure to reduce the weight.

The controversial UK-only change to the Swiss chocolate bar was made because of the 'higher costs for ingredients' - such as cocoa - in the wake of Brexit.

US-based Mondelez International, which owns Toblerone and Cadbury, denied the change was made 'as a direct result of Brexit', but it pointed out the exchange rate was 'not favourable'.

The move by the company, formerly known as Kraft, has resulted in the weight of the 400g bars being reduced to 360g and the 170g bars to 150g, while the price remains the same.



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It comes after a number of companies sought to raise prices to offset the effect of a plunging pound following the vote to leave the EU.

Hundreds have taken to social media to voice their 'disgust' at the bigger spaces between the Toblerone peaks, although the packaging will remain the same size.

Comedian Ricky Gervais led the outrage, saying: 'First Brexit and now this.'


One shared a picture of the new chocolate bar and said: 'I've been to funerals less upsetting than this'.

Josephine tweeted: 'First marmite, now toblerone. Brexit is taking away everything I love.'

Alistair Calder wrote on Facebook, saying: 'Utterly ridiculous decision!! Make it shorter or make it more expensive - much more honest.'



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Post by Guest 3/4/2018, 13:54

Vjetrovnjak wrote:Gnjeec! :)

Ne znam sto trkeljat'.

pokušavam nešto objasniti ali to nije pošlo za rukom ni Isusu a kamo li meni.
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Post by Guest 3/4/2018, 14:25

toblerone čokoladu možeš napraviti sam doma u kuhinji. neš ti posla i tajni...



Kraš je proizvodio toblerone po licenci do 1980-tih godina. danas Kraš proizvodi Kolumbo što je isto odnosno klon za toblerone.

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evo još jedna zanimljivost:

In 1995, it was revealed that the Swedish politician Mona Sahlin had bought, among other things, two bars of Toblerone using her Riksdag credit card (i.e., with taxpayers' money). This became known as the Toblerone affair. Sahlin was forced to step down as a candidate for the post as Prime Minister. She returned to politics in 1998.

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Post by Guest 3/4/2018, 14:55

za Vjetrovnjaka:

kaži onim imbecilima sa X foruma da ih jebem u glavu nepismenu. šteta što sam izbrisao account inače bi ja to učinio lično i personalno.


kako neznaju za parsley, sage, rosemary and thyme? pa to je strahota neznanje a onaj pizdekasti Pizda još neki botaničar, travar što li je?.

Scarborough is a small town on the coast of England. The "Scarborough Fair" was a popular gathering in Medieval times, attracting traders and entertainers from all over the country. The fair lasted 45 days and started every August 15th. In the 1600s, mineral waters were found in Scarborough and it became a resort town. Today, Scarborough is a quiet town with a rich history. (thanks, Sheryl - Seal Rock, OR)
In Medieval England, this became a popular folk song as Bards would sing it when they traveled from town to town. The author of the song is unknown, and many different versions exist. The traditional version has many more lyrics.
Paul Simon learned about this song when he was on tour in England, where he heard a version by a popular folk singer named Martin Carthy. When Carthy heard Simon & Garfunkel's rendition, he accused Simon of stealing his arrangement. Carthy and Simon did not speak until 2000, when Simon asked Carthy to perform this with him at a show in London. Carthy put his differences aside and did the show.

Martin Carthy learned the song from a Ewan MacColl songbook, and had recorded it on his first album, according to BBC's Patrick Hamphries.

Paul Simon admitted to the July 2011 edition of Mojo magazine: "The version I was playing was definitely what I could remember of Martin's version, but he didn't teach it to me. Really, it was just naivety on my part that we didn't credit it as his arrangement of a traditional tune. I didn't know you had to do that. Then later on, Martin's publisher contacted me and we made a pretty substantial monetary settlement that he was supposed to split with Martin, But unbeknown to me, Martin got nothing."
The lyrics are about a man trying to attain his true love. In Medieval times, the herbs mentioned in the song represented virtues that were important to the lyrics. Parsley was comfort, sage was strength, rosemary was love, and thyme was courage.
This was not released as a single until 1968, when it was used in the Dustin Hoffman movie The Graduate. It is on the soundtrack.
Before Simon & Garfunkel got to it, Bob Dylan used the lines, "Remember me to one who lives there, she once was a true love of mine" in his 1963 song "Girl From The North Country."
"Scarborough Fair" and "Canticle" are 2 songs that are sung simultaneously to create this piece. The first and last verses are "Scarborough Fair," but lines from "Canticle" alternate after the first line of the other verses, so "On the side of a hill in a deep forest green" and "Tracing of sparrow on snow-crested ground" are from "Canticle."
This song is often listed as "Scarborough Fair/Canticle." On The Paul Simon Songbook, a little known 1965 UK album of Simon-solo demos, there is a song called "The Side Of a Hill." "The Side Of a Hill" was reworked into the Canticle part of "Scarborough Fair." (thanks, Jesse - Roanoke, VA)
With its implicit anti-Vietnam War message, this was used in The Wonder Years TV series in a scene where Kevin Arnold embraces Winnie Cooper while the song was played at the end of the episode. In the show, Winnie's brother had been killed in Vietnam.



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Post by kic 3/4/2018, 16:42


kolumbo nisam vidio..
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Post by Guest 3/4/2018, 17:04

Gnjec, ma ne da mi se.. Ali hvala. :) Eventualno prenesem ovo o znacenju biljaka. Mislim, ako ih bude zanimalo, ionako ce sami potraziti.. Inace, nikada nisam voljela S & G-ov prepjev.

Ovo mi je lijeoo. Harfa, akustika, vokal. :)



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Post by aben 3/4/2018, 17:17

Gnječ wrote:
aben wrote:e, zamisli kako bi lipo bilo da se primjerice borba ustaša i jugoslovena više ne vodi na proračunu, nego onako čisto teorijski, nešto ko borbe navijača suprotnih športskih klubova.

ustaše? koji je njihov politički i ekonomski program? govorim o propaloj NDH i današnjim neo ustašama kojima je jedina ideologija rat protiv srba, ostalih nehrvatskih naroda i hrvata koji nisu bili skloni ustaštvu, nacizmu i klerofašizmu. i stvaranje etnički čiste države. to je totalitarni nacionalistički pokret koji se do dolaska na vlast služio terorističkim metodama a na vlasti znamo kojim se metodama koristila ne treba nabrajati i ponavljati ad nauseam...uz to NDH je bila ustrojena klero-fašistički isto kao i današnja RH.

jugoslaveni su svi južni slaveni pa i ustaše.

ja ne spadam ni u jednu gore navedenu kategoriju.
e, i sa zamisli kad bi se takove rasprave vodile potpuno odvojeno od proračuna.

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Post by aben 3/4/2018, 17:20

kic wrote:
eh, to nisam nikad nijekao..

promjena u kvaliteti je popratna okolnost, po Horkheimeru naravno, kao s Toblerone cokoladom koji su povecali proreze tj smanjili cokoladu, mi imamo izbor ne kupovati vise ali zamjenu za Toblerone realno nemamo..

zato vecina ljudi spada u pokorne (opet po Horkheineru) a tek mali broj u otpor, jer otpor zahtijeva i aktivnost, trazenje alternativne cokoladice, vecina ljudi su kukavice in short.. nekad se u strasno teskim uvjetima i bjedi sanjala i slagala utopija, ali danas nosioci falange traze slobodnije drustvo, je r savrsenost se ne moze postici..
ali niko ti ni dužan jamčiti zamjenu za tableronu.
a činjenica da će se mnogi pokoriti je irelevantna. problijem s veličinon ćikulatice je vrhunac slobode, i valjalo bio ga tako gljedati, jer je u usporedbi s problijemima ki su nas mučili prije samo 28 godin totalni nonissue.

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aben wrote:
kic wrote:
eh, to nisam nikad nijekao..

promjena u kvaliteti je popratna okolnost, po Horkheimeru naravno, kao s Toblerone cokoladom koji su povecali proreze tj smanjili cokoladu, mi imamo izbor ne kupovati vise ali zamjenu za Toblerone realno nemamo..

zato vecina ljudi spada u pokorne (opet po Horkheineru) a tek mali broj u otpor, jer otpor zahtijeva i aktivnost, trazenje alternativne cokoladice, vecina ljudi su kukavice in short.. nekad se u strasno teskim uvjetima i bjedi sanjala i slagala utopija, ali danas nosioci falange traze slobodnije drustvo, je r savrsenost se ne moze postici..
ali niko ti ni dužan jamčiti zamjenu za tableronu.
a činjenica da će se mnogi pokoriti je irelevantna. problijem s veličinon ćikulatice je vrhunac slobode, i valjalo bio ga tako gljedati, jer je u usporedbi s problijemima ki su nas mučili prije samo 28 godin totalni nonissue.

problem je ča je ćikolata izgubila oblik vizualno je kurac od ovce

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ali cijena te ćikolate je ostala ista a u pizdu materinu.

toblerone je BIG issue. ima takvih primjera masa da ti dođe da uzmeš mitralju i kreneš pucat po svima.
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What do people in the UK think of the new less peaky Toblerone bar?

If the news had come out on April 1st I would have thought it was a joke. As it is, it’s a fantastic metaphor for Brexit and all that it will entail.

Mondelez have denied that the changes are a direct consequence of Brexit but that’s a rather transparent fib because:

They claim it is due to “rising costs”. Yeah, or perhaps because our Pounds are now worth 20% less in terms of the Swiss Francs those costs accrue in.

It doesn’t appear to have been introduced in any other country, as far as we’ve been told.
We can expect more of this sort of thing, and it is entirely self-inflicted and deserved. Looks like I will be stocking up on Toblerones in airport shops from now on, because the Brexit version is rubbish.

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Many people are annoyed at the change, for various reasons

The main three reasons (in my opinion)

The packaging is deceiving; they changed the size of the chocolate/weight yet they have kept the packaging the same, so to a person who hasn't seen the news. There are still paying the price of the bigger ones, yet there is less chocolate
They have technically increased the price: although each box is the same price, there is less stuff in it, i.e. Instead of paying £2 for 400G it’s £2 for 350G
They are blaming it on Brexit, as with a lot of companies in the UK they are blaming raising costs because of Brexit; e.g. Walkers are planning to increase prices of their crisps, even though most of their ingredients are from the UK. In short people don’t see why Brexit means increased costs
Tesco had the right idea, they refused to increase prices for Unilever products, blaming brexit for a 33% rise and then Unilever backed down.

If more companies refused to raise prices for suppliers, the suppliers wouldn’t try to swindle people out of more money.

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4.3.1902 – Casa di tolleranza Elizabete Orlić bila je noćas poprište žučne svađe. Poznata lučka svađalica i ispičutura Ramadan optužio je gosta javne kuće Ivana Videku da mu je ukrao 20 kruna. Izbila je tuča, intervenirala je policija, a novčanica od 20 kruna je nađena na podu (bordel se nalazio na Usponu Capitolino br. 16. danas je to Uspon Konzula Istranina).

da la casa di tolleranza kuća tolerancije a ono kažin, bordel, javna kuća.
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4.3.1904 – Pošto je glavna pruga za mjestni električni tramvaj u Puli gotova čine se sada na istoj marljivo pokusi, sa jednim motorvozom. Ti pokusi uspjeli su pod upravom ravnatelja gosp. Ofnera vrlo dobro. Tramvaj je krenuo sa Stoje prema gradu do željezničke stanice i onda nazad rivom prema remizi Bagni di Marina.
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