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Post by crvenkasti 30/10/2022, 16:52

U najmračnijim danima zime Finska se priprema za nestanak struje


- vlasti su upozorile da će Finska imati nestanke struje
- za sve je kriv prestanak uvoza ruske električne energije

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U jeku zime, Finska može biti užasno mjesto. Temperature često padaju ispod -20C, au najtamnijim mjesecima u godini Helsinki ima manje od šest sati svjetla dnevno.

U borbi protiv stihije, Finska je postala energetski najintenzivnije gospodarstvo u EU. Ali kako se približava zima, zemlja se priprema za sve češće nestanke električne energije, planirane kao odgovor na ruske redukcije energije. Iako je ruska energija činila samo mali dio ukupne opskrbe Finske, njen gubitak prijeti velikim utjecajem, a Finci su prisiljeni birati između loših opcija.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-10-29/darkest-days-of-winter-have-finland-bracing-for-blackouts

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Boli ih kurac, Finska je sad u NATO-u. Jebeš rusku struju.
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Post by vili40 30/10/2022, 17:21

Al ga ti uzivas na svaku posljedicu brutalne putinove agresije.Napravili su ludaci veliku stetu i jos ce ali na kraju ce najvece stete imati oni sami.
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Post by marcellus 30/10/2022, 17:30

Finska je NATO. Imat će rakete, na prdomet od Rusije. I ima struje. Susjedna norveška proizvodi pun kurac nafte i plina.

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Post by crvenkasti 30/10/2022, 17:44

marcellus wrote:Finska je NATO. Imat će rakete, na prdomet od Rusije. I ima struje. Susjedna norveška proizvodi pun kurac nafte i plina.

Jel može ta Norveška poslat malo i Ukrajini?

Vitali Klitschko’s plea to West: ‘Send blankets and generators or we’ll freeze to death’


Kyiv mayor urges allies to speed up aid efforts as his ravaged city prepares for its biggest fight yet – against the harsh winter

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Ukrainians will freeze to death this winter if the West does not urgently send blankets and generators to keep them warm, Vitali Klitschko has said....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/10/28/vitali-klitschkos-plea-west-send-blankets-generators-freeze/
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Post by crvenkasti 30/10/2022, 17:49

vili40 wrote:Al ga ti uzivas na svaku posljedicu brutalne putinove agresije.Napravili su ludaci veliku stetu i jos ce ali na kraju ce najvece stete imati oni sami.

Bez obzira na sve, treba im nametnuti još više sankcija.

Možda im na kraju ipak postane gore nego nama.
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Post by marcellus 30/10/2022, 17:52

crvenkasti wrote:
marcellus wrote:Finska je NATO. Imat će rakete, na prdomet od Rusije. I ima struje. Susjedna norveška proizvodi pun kurac nafte i plina.

Jel može ta Norveška poslat malo i Ukrajini?

Vitali Klitschko’s plea to West: ‘Send blankets and generators or we’ll freeze to death’


Kyiv mayor urges allies to speed up aid efforts as his ravaged city prepares for its biggest fight yet – against the harsh winter

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Ukrainians will freeze to death this winter if the West does not urgently send blankets and generators to keep them warm, Vitali Klitschko has said....

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/10/28/vitali-klitschkos-plea-west-send-blankets-generators-freeze/

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Post by marcellus 30/10/2022, 17:56

Inače vi smrdljivi srbi možete drkat na to da će se u kijevu smrzavat jer ste genocidni toksični genetski otpad ko i braća rusi, samo kvaka je što će ovo završit tako da će se zapad, koji je uz sve svoje mane i gluposti 200 godina ispred srbije i 100 ispred rusije, najebat matere i vama i njima i to na način kojeg se ne usuđujete ni sanjati. Bombardiranje beograda 99 je bilo kamilica spram onog što vam se sprema.

a ti drkaj dalje na to da će bit zima u kijevu ove zime. Bit će vama jebeno zima idućih sto godina. Ima da vas nema.

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Post by Hartmann 30/10/2022, 18:30

marcellus wrote:Inače vi smrdljivi srbi možete drkat na to da će se u kijevu smrzavat jer ste genocidni toksični genetski otpad ko i braća rusi, samo kvaka je što će ovo završit tako da će se zapad, koji je uz sve svoje mane i gluposti 200 godina ispred srbije i 100 ispred rusije, najebat matere i vama i njima i to na način kojeg se ne usuđujete ni sanjati. Bombardiranje beograda 99 je bilo kamilica spram onog što vam se sprema.

a ti drkaj dalje na to da će bit zima u kijevu ove zime. Bit će vama jebeno zima idućih sto godina. Ima da vas nema.
Ocekivao bi se od novinara,bar neemocionalan i objektivan pristup temi,kao takvoj..

Odmah da kazem,da budem u skladu sa tvojin stilom..Moze se cijeli Zapad napusit kurca Rusiji,ne zato jer navijam za rusiju,nego zato jer su to CINJENICE.Da ti elaboriram,nadalje cistom logikom..

Da ZAPAD IMA te mogucnosti.davno bi vec navalio na Rusiju..

Vidimo i koje je efekte poznjeo niz najbrutalnijih sankcija koje je Svijet ikad vidio..Tesko da bi ijedna druga drzava to mogla kompenzirati,pa JOS I EKONOMSKI NAPREDOVATI.

stavit cu ti jedan tekst,mrtvo ladno objektivan,a ti procitaj,i sEBI,ako ne bar drugima priznaj,jel ima smisla...kasnije nastavim i stavim ti i drugu temu,no ne zelim je mjesati sa ovom..

[size=46]LNG ships waiting for higher EU prices to unload – Reuters[/size]

..dakle,popularni u Balkanaca,LNG od vjecito prijateljskih Amera(cijena za EU 4x visa)

A glut of tankers are reportedly floating off the Spanish coast as a result of the trading strategy
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Several ships loaded with liquefied natural gas (LNG) that have been circling off the coast of Spain are likely to stay there until late November, as they wait for European gas prices to go up, Reuters reported on Wednesday, citing industry sources.
An LNG tanker traffic jam has been building off the Spanish coast for weeks with vessels waiting to unload their cargo. Spain boasts the largest LNG storage facilities in the European Union.
The glut of LNG off the coast could be part of a trading strategy by suppliers, as ships are waiting until prices increase to unload, industry sources told Reuters.
Natural gas prices are at their lowest level in Europe since June, having dropped 28% in a week, due in part to above-normal temperatures and high inventory levels, as the EU’s gas storage is now nearly 95% full, according to Rystad Energy.
[size=18]Katatrofa: u Finskoj neće bit struje u sred prestojeće mračne zime 6351690285f5405a2f7bf5a6READ MORE: EU says its gas reserves are ready for winter. But there's a catch

“If one single idling vessel discharges its cargo, the price will immediately collapse by affecting the other cargoes in the queue and this domino effect is so painful in terms of opportunity cost,” one of the sources told Reuters.
Just by waiting to deliver in December rather than November, the difference in profit could be in the order of tens of millions of dollars per shipment, Michelle Wiese Bockmann from the shipping journal Lloyd’s List told the BBC.
The backlog of ships has mainly been attributed to a lack of LNG storage capacity in Europe. EU countries went on an LNG-buying spree over the summer to fill up their reserves ahead of winter in view of reduced supplies from Russia. But, as the bloc has long relied on pipeline gas, the continent’s regasification and storage capacities cannot cope, Reuters explained.[/size]

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Post by crvenkasti 30/10/2022, 18:31

LNG ships play waiting game off Spain's coast as higher prices eyed


MADRID/LONDON, Oct 26 (Reuters) - Several ships carrying liquefied natural gas (LNG) anchored off Spain's Bay of Cadiz are likely to stay there until late November in anticipation of a rise in European gas prices, industry sources said.

Dozens of ships have been circling off the Iberian coast and in the Mediterranean sea for weeks, unable to secure slots to unload their LNG cargoes as plants that convert the superchilled fuel back to gas are operating at maximum capacity.

The high volume of LNG in floating storage exposes Europe's lack of "regasification" capacity just as the continent stocks up for a winter of substantially less Russian pipeline gas.

But industry sources say some of the waiting ships are part of a trading strategy from their respective companies, anticipating higher prices.

"They are waiting for higher prices. If one single idling vessel discharges its cargo, the price will immediately collapse by affecting the other cargoes on the queue and this domino effect is so painful in terms of opportunity cost," one of the sources said.

European natural gas prices are at their lowest since June, dropping 28% in a week, partly due to high inventory levels and above-normal temperatures, according to Rystad Energy.

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/lng-ships-play-waiting-game-off-spains-coast-higher-prices-eyed-2022-10-26/

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Zapadni LNG brodovi čekaju da se počnemo smrzavat, jer će tada cijena plina biti veća.

To je slobodno tržište, ne možeš ništa.
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Post by Hartmann 30/10/2022, 18:37

zanimljivo,zanimljivo..

i vrlo logicno..


[size=46]Washington seeking to weaken EU [/size]

The United States is aiming to weaken the EU, both militarily and economically, Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has claimed. 
Europeans are already suffering from anti-Russia sanctions “many times more than the US,” he said in an interview published on Sunday. 
“There is a growing number of economists, not only in our country, but also in the West, who come to a conclusion that the US goal is to completely ‘bleed’ and deindustrialize the European economy,” he said.
“It is also in Washington’s interests to weaken Europe militarily. To constantly keep it under pressure, to force it to pump weapons into Ukraine, and in return fill the EU countries’ arms depots with American supplies,” Lavrov said. 
In pursuing such a policy, Washington has been guided by “economic, purely selfish calculations, as well as by ideological complexes of superiority,” he suggested. 
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Earlier this month, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said Americans were making “crazy money” by selling gas to European states at exorbitant prices against a backdrop of EU sanctions on Russian energy supplies.
He said this would inevitably lead to the “deindustrialization” of the EU which, in turn, will  have “very, very deplorable consequences” for the bloc “over the next 10 to 20 years.”
In the wake of sweeping sanctions the EU imposed on Russia over its military operation in Ukraine, gas prices have surged. The bloc is now struggling with the prospect of energy shortages in winter and soaring inflation. Brussels has largely followed Washington’s stance of seeking to weaken Moscow by imposing sanctions, while supporting Kiev through weapons supplies and financial aid.

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Post by Hartmann 30/10/2022, 18:38

Zasada Ameri nude Francuzima po cijeni 4x vecoj,a zima je jos daleko...vidjet cemo kad temperature pocnu padati

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Post by Hartmann 30/10/2022, 18:40

sram ih bilo sram ih bilo...prodaju nordijcima oruzje..

[size=46]Criminals in Finland obtain weapons from Ukraine – police[/size]

Arms from Western suppliers to Kiev have also been found in Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands, Finland’s National Bureau of Investigation says
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Ukrainian servicemen unload a plane with US-supplied Javelin man-portable anti-tank missiles. :copyright:  AFP / Sergei Supinsky

Criminals in Finland have got hold of some of the weapons that were sent to Ukraine by its Western backers amid the conflict with Russia, the Finnish National Bureau of Investigation (NBI) has said.
“We've seen signs of these weapons already finding their way to Finland,” NBI detective superintendent Christer Ahlgren told the news outlet Yle on Sunday.   
Assault rifles were among the weaponry, Ahlgren said, but declined to provide further details, as the investigation is still ongoing. 
Arms trafficking routes from Ukraine to Finland have already been set up, according to the investigator.
“Three of the world's largest motorcycle gangs — that are part of larger international organizations — are active in Finland. One of these is Bandidos MC, which has a unit in every major Ukrainian city,” he said.
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“Criminal organizations have their networks in Finnish commercial ports,”  Ahlgren pointed out, adding that security checks that are mandatory for airport staff do not apply to port workers.
Finland is not the only EU country with such problems, as “weapons shipped to Ukraine have also been found in Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands,” he said. 
“Ukraine has received a large volume of weapons and that's good, but we're going to be dealing with these arms for decades and pay the price here,” Ahlgren pointed out.
As early as May, US Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin stressed the need for accountability for American arms supplied to Ukraine. Back then, Austin said he had discussed the issue with the Kiev authorities, who gave assurances on accountability.
In June, the EU’s law enforcement agency Europol warned that the Ukraine conflict could lead to a spike in arms and ammo being smuggled into the bloc.
READ MORE: US unveils latest round of military aid for Kiev
Around the same time, an investigation by RT Russian revealed that various weapons supplied to Kiev by the West were being sold on the dark net. 
Moscow has long criticized weapons deliveries to Kiev by the US, EU, UK and some other nations, arguing that they only prolong the conflict and increase the risk of a direct confrontation between Russia and NATO.[/size]

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Post by Hartmann 30/10/2022, 18:46

ma o cemu pricamo..??..

EU je u kurcu,gdje je i zasluzila biti, slusajuci Amere,kako da ujebu svju ekonomiju...

[size=46]German bailout of struggling energy giant may reach €60 billion – Bloomberg[/size]

Uniper is facing financial ruin after the reduction in Russian natural gas supplies
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Berlin is getting ready to boost financial aid to Uniper, the country’s largest gas supplier, which has been brought to the brink of insolvency due to rising energy prices, Bloomberg reported citing sources familiar with the matter.
According to the report, the government may up the aid to €60 billion ($60 billion). The plan comes as the company’s financial situation is quickly worsening due to growing wholesale gas prices prompted by diminishing flows from Russia. Uniper’s adjusted net loss for the first nine months of the year reportedly amounted to €3.2 billion ($3.2 billion). And if gas prices do not subside, which is unlikely due to the approaching winter and the subsequent growth in demand, the government will have to spend twice as much to bail out the energy giant than previously expected.
German authorities announced plans to nationalize Uniper last month as part of efforts to keep the energy industry afloat amid the crisis. Uniper has been promised around €31 billion in aid from Berlin’s €200 billion energy aid package. In exchange, the government will acquire a 98.5% stake in the firm, which effectively means its full nationalization. The law cementing the deal is reportedly scheduled to be confirmed by the German Senate on Friday, and the funds could be transferred to Uniper next week, Bloomberg sources said.
[size=18]Katatrofa: u Finskoj neće bit struje u sred prestojeće mračne zime 632aced220302730260cf2b1READ MORE: Germany nationalizes gas giant

In an interview with Bloomberg, German Deputy Finance Minister Florian Toncar said Berlin will do all in its power to ensure Uniper remains operational but did not comment on the size of the aid.
Uniper is a crucial company for the gas supply in Germany, otherwise we wouldn’t jump to such high stakes,” he was cited as saying.
While European benchmark gas futures have fallen about 70% from their August highs on nearly full storage and liquefied natural gas (LNG) deliveries, gas prices remain around three times higher than the five-year average. According to Uniper, the company is forced to pay much more for gas now than it did for the pipeline supplies from Russia.

eto,par tema,ne previse...cinjenice su vise nego ocite..[/size]

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ajd zdravo...

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Post by vuksadinare 30/10/2022, 18:57

inace ruje dominiraju... :)
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Post by sitting_bull 30/10/2022, 21:54

Hartmann wrote:ajd zdravo...
kaj god.

rusija je u europu izvozila cca 200 milijardi kubnih metara plina godišnje.
nakon ispadanja sjevernog toka 1 iz pogona izvoz je praktično nešto veći od nule.
bez obzira na povećanu cijenu plina prema europi, obzirom na smanjenje isporučene količine ruski prihod je višestruko smanjen.
to je jedan dio problema.
drugi dio je što će rusija morati prekinuti eksploataciju plina iz bušotina jer ga nema kome prodati budući da kapaciteti prema kini i indiji, a jednako tako i potražnja tamo ne mogu ni izbliza nadomjestiti količinu plina prodanog europi jednako kao niti prihod od te prodaje.
treći je dio problema održavanje svih postrojenja u naftnoj i plinskoj branši jer su svi vitalni dijelovi bilo američki/kanadski bilo europski.
svaki veći kvar značiti će prekid proizvodnje, a ponovno pokretanje je skup i kompliciran proces gdje će rusima opet nedostajati zapadna tehnologija i dijelovi (sjeti se samo priče sa pumpnom stanicom za sjeverni tok koju je siemens poslao na remont u kanadu). 

istovremeno s ovom pričom traje rat u ukrajini koji je enormno skup, kako za ukrajinu tako i za rusiju.
i dok ukrajinu financijski podupiru sad, kanada i eu, rusija sama plaća cijenu tog rata.
o.k. obzirom na financijske rezerve rusija je uspjela izdržati do sada, ali te rezerve su blizu kraju i rusija će na dnevnoj razini ostvarivati deficit sve dok traje rat.
dodatni segment koji je poguban za rusiju je odlazak gotovo svih zapadnih investicija zbog sankcija što znači da i prekidom sankcija još neko vrijeme neće biti nikakvih investicija u rusiju sve dok ne bude jamstava kako su investicije sigurne. riječ je o razdoblju koje može biti par godina, ali i desetljeće i dulje.

dakle, svi ovi tvoji linkovi o "propasti" zapadnih zemalja su samo tješenje samoga sebe.
istina, nešto će pasti životni standard, biti će povremenih problema sa pojedinim segmentima kako u energetskom sektoru tako i u industriji, ali obzirom na to kako je nadvladan problem sa ruskim plinom kao najvećim izazovom, naći će eu i velika britanija moduse za rješavanje budućih drugih izazova koji će se pojaviti kao posljedica rata  u ukrajini.

ajd' zdravo.
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vili40 wrote:Al ga ti uzivas na svaku posljedicu brutalne putinove agresije.Napravili su ludaci veliku stetu i jos ce ali na kraju ce najvece stete imati oni 


Slavio si 1999, sada se zalis.....

Ovi su ratovali 30 godina, rec nisi rekao, sada filozofiras.

Sta radi onaj, tako i ovaj mora biti u fazonu.

Agresija ranije nigde nije bila...

Neko po Balkanu, neko po Ukrajini.

Ovde po Ukrajini ih zovu, ovi Erini pobegli.

Tamo po Kosovu su zajedno Srbiju prodavali sa Rusima.

Tada je sve bilo OK.

Sada kukaju, gimme a break.
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Post by Serbinho-3 1/11/2022, 17:35

Priznali i Agresiju na Kosovu, jos ponavljali ko

papagaj da se prizna realno stanje.

Sada kukaju.

Koliko trebas glup biti.

Sigurno se necu spustiti na nivo nekih.

Onim vasima sa tim izjavama, sada bi Seselj 

trebao vratiti seljacku povratnu, ali ne pada ni on

toliko nisko.

Pametovali pa cvile, sta ti je ljudska budala za non bilivit,

sto bi Veber rekao.
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