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Hill-tops like hot iron glitter bright in the sun,
And the rivers we're eying burn to gold as they run;
Burning hot is the ground, liquid gold is the air;
Whoever looks round sees Eternity there.



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The Zhangjiajie National Forest Park (Chinese: 湖南张家界国家森林公园; pinyin: Húnán Zhāngjiājiè Guójiā Sēnlín Gōngyuán; literally: "Hunan Zhangjiajie National Forest Park") is a unique national forest park located in Zhangjiajie City in northern Hunan Province in the People's Republic of China. It is one of several national parks within the Wulingyuan Scenic Area.

In 1982 it was recognized as China's first national forest park with an area of 4,810 ha (11,900 acres).[1] Zhangjiajie National Forest Park is part of a much larger 397.5 km2 (153.5 sq mi) Wulingyuan Scenic Area. In 1992, Wulingyuan was officially recognized as a UNESCO World Heritage Site.[2] It was then approved by the Ministry of Land and Resources as Zhangjiajie Sandstone Peak Forest National Geopark (3,600 km2 (1,400 sq mi)) in 2001. In 2004, Zhangjiajie geopark was listed as a UNESCO global geopark.

The most notable geographic features of the park are the pillar-like formations that are seen throughout the park.

One of the park's quartz-sandstone pillars, the 1,080-metre (3,540 ft) Southern Sky Column, had been officially renamed "Avatar Hallelujah Mountain" (阿凡达-哈利路亚山, pinyin: Āfándá hālìlùyà shān) in honor of the eponymous film in January 2010.[3] According to park officials, photographs from Zhangjiajie inspired the floating Hallelujah Mountains seen in the film.[4] The film's director and production designers said that they drew inspiration for the floating rocks from mountains from around the world, including those in Hunan province.


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Coronal hole faces Earth
Friday, 14 September 2018 - 15:15 UTC

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The previous coronal hole solar wind stream gave us some great auroral displays around the world as it caused moderate G2 geomagnetic storm conditions on 11 September which was predicted perfectly by the NOAA SWPC. Today we have yet another coronal hole facing our planet which should be exciting news for aurora watchers at high latitude locations!

A transequatorial coronal hole is facing Earth. Enhanced solar wind could arrive in ~3 days. Follow live on https://www.spaceweather.live/l/ch

We are dealing with a transequatorial coronal hole today. This coronal hole changed quite a bit since it last faced our planet. The speed of the solar wind reached well over 600km/s last time around but the interplanetary magnetic field never really cooperated and a maximum of Kp4 (active geomagnetic conditions) were recorded on 20 August.

Similar stats are likely this time around when the high speed solar wind stream from this coronal hole arrives. This could occur in about three days from now which would be on Monday, 17 September. Active geomagnetic conditions (Kp4) are once again likely with a chance for minor G1 geomagnetic storm conditions. Considering we are so close to the equinox, this should also be taken into account as solar storms can be stronger than expected around the equinoxes.

https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/news/view/356/20180914-coronal-hole-faces-earth

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

NOAA SWPC Alerts, Watches and Warnings
The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Space Weather Prediction Center (NOAA SWPC) is the official space weather government agency from the United States that provides alerts, watches and warning for space weather disturbances. Below you will find the latest space weather alerts, watches and warnings issued by the NOAA SWPC.

Saturday, 22 September 2018
15:51 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2850
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 22 1551 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2849
Begin Time: 2018 Sep 12 1730 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 10633 pfu

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

11:55 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: WARK04
Serial Number: 3538
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 22 1155 UTC

EXTENDED WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Extension to Serial Number: 3537
Valid From: 2018 Sep 21 2335 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2018 Sep 22 2359 UTC
Warning Condition: persistence

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.

02:45 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTK05
Serial Number: 1243
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 22 0245 UTC

ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 5
Threshold Reached: 2018 Sep 22 0245 UTC
Synoptic Period: 0000-0300 UTC

Active Warning: Yes
NOAA Scale: G1 - Minor

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 60 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Spacecraft - Minor impact on satellite operations possible.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes, i.e., northern tier of the U.S. such as northern Michigan and Maine.

00:01 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTK05
Serial Number: 1242
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 22 0001 UTC

ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 5
Threshold Reached: 2018 Sep 21 2359 UTC
Synoptic Period: 2100-0000 UTC

Active Warning: Yes
NOAA Scale: G1 - Minor

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 60 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Spacecraft - Minor impact on satellite operations possible.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes, i.e., northern tier of the U.S. such as northern Michigan and Maine.

Friday, 21 September 2018
23:56 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: WARK05
Serial Number: 1496
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 21 2356 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 5 expected
Valid From: 2018 Sep 21 2355 UTC
Valid To: 2018 Sep 22 0900 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset
NOAA Scale: G1 - Minor

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 60 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Spacecraft - Minor impact on satellite operations possible.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes, i.e., northern tier of the U.S. such as northern Michigan and Maine.

23:44 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTK04
Serial Number: 2077
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 21 2344 UTC

ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 4
Threshold Reached: 2018 Sep 21 2345 UTC
Synoptic Period: 2100-2400 UTC

Active Warning: Yes

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.

23:33 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: WARK04
Serial Number: 3537
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 21 2333 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Valid From: 2018 Sep 21 2335 UTC
Valid To: 2018 Sep 22 1200 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.

09:00 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2849
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 21 0900 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2848
Begin Time: 2018 Sep 12 1730 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 8309 pfu

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

Thursday, 20 September 2018
15:43 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: WATA20
Serial Number: 837
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 20 1543 UTC

WATCH: Geomagnetic Storm Category G1 Predicted

Highest Storm Level Predicted by Day:
Sep 21: None (Below G1) Sep 22: None (Below G1) Sep 23: G1 (Minor)

THIS SUPERSEDES ANY/ALL PRIOR WATCHES IN EFFECT

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 60 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Spacecraft - Minor impact on satellite operations possible.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes, i.e., northern tier of the U.S. such as northern Michigan and Maine.

09:00 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2848
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 20 0900 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2847
Begin Time: 2018 Sep 12 1730 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 8688 pfu

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

Wednesday, 19 September 2018
09:01 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2847
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 19 0901 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2846
Begin Time: 2018 Sep 12 1730 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 7837 pfu

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

Tuesday, 18 September 2018
10:36 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2846
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 18 1036 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2845
Begin Time: 2018 Sep 12 1730 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 17212 pfu

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

Monday, 17 September 2018
14:24 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2845
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 17 1424 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2844
Begin Time: 2018 Sep 12 1730 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 34945 pfu

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

03:21 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: WARK04
Serial Number: 3536
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 17 0321 UTC

WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Valid From: 2018 Sep 17 0320 UTC
Valid To: 2018 Sep 17 1200 UTC
Warning Condition: Onset

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.

Sunday, 16 September 2018
08:59 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2844
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 16 0859 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2843
Begin Time: 2018 Sep 12 1730 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 30449 pfu

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

Saturday, 15 September 2018
08:59 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2843
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 15 0859 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2842
Begin Time: 2018 Sep 12 1730 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 42518 pfu

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

Friday, 14 September 2018
08:59 UTC
Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2842
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 14 0859 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2841
Begin Time: 2018 Sep 12 1730 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 6646 pfu

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/en/reports/noaa-swpc-alerts-watches-and-warnings

SPACE WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER

NATIONAL OCEANIC AND ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION

ALERTS, WATCHES AND WARNINGS

Space Weather Message Code: ALTEF3
Serial Number: 2850
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 22 1551 UTC

CONTINUED ALERT: Electron 2MeV Integral Flux exceeded 1000pfu
Continuation of Serial Number: 2849
Begin Time: 2018 Sep 12 1730 UTC
Yesterday Maximum 2MeV Flux: 10633 pfu

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Satellite systems may experience significant charging resulting in increased risk to satellite systems.

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Space Weather Message Code: WARK04
Serial Number: 3538
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 22 1155 UTC

EXTENDED WARNING: Geomagnetic K-index of 4 expected
Extension to Serial Number: 3537
Valid From: 2018 Sep 21 2335 UTC
Now Valid Until: 2018 Sep 22 2359 UTC
Warning Condition: persistence

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 65 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes such as Canada and Alaska.

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Space Weather Message Code: ALTK05
Serial Number: 1243
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 22 0245 UTC

ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 5
Threshold Reached: 2018 Sep 22 0245 UTC
Synoptic Period: 0000-0300 UTC

Active Warning: Yes
NOAA Scale: G1 - Minor

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 60 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Spacecraft - Minor impact on satellite operations possible.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes, i.e., northern tier of the U.S. such as northern Michigan and Maine.

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Space Weather Message Code: ALTK05
Serial Number: 1242
Issue Time: 2018 Sep 22 0001 UTC

ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 5
Threshold Reached: 2018 Sep 21 2359 UTC
Synoptic Period: 2100-0000 UTC

Active Warning: Yes
NOAA Scale: G1 - Minor

NOAA Space Weather Scale descriptions can be found at
www.swpc.noaa.gov/noaa-scales-explanation

Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 60 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Weak power grid fluctuations can occur.
Spacecraft - Minor impact on satellite operations possible.
Aurora - Aurora may be visible at high latitudes, i.e., northern tier of the U.S. such as northern Michigan and Maine.

https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/products/alerts-watches-and-warnings


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Post by kic 9/23/2018, 09:06


The Ides of March, 15 March: a date that can be found in any history textbook. It is the day Caesar was assassinated. The conspiracy against him had been well prepared. Approximately sixty people were involved, among them senators, ex-consuls and ex-praetors. The ringleaders were Brutus and Cassius. Although the conspirators kept their plans secret, the plot seems to have been leaked, and Caesar was warned that his life was in jeopardy. But he disregarded all advice and paid no heed to prophecies about his impending demise. He took no notice of the words of the soothsayer Spurinna that he should be on his guard for a threat that would come to pass no later than the Ides of March. On the eve of the murder he dined with ‘friends’. A discussion ensued about what was the most preferable way to die. Caesar was the only one there to make a case for a quick, unexpected death. That night he dreamed he was floating above the clouds and shook Jupiter’s hand, but the meaning of all this did not sink in. He only began to have his doubts when his wife Calpurnia told of a dream she had had in which the façade of their house collapsed and her husband was stabbed to death in her arms. He briefly considered staying at home, but Brutus asked him not to disappoint the waiting senators and
persuaded him to come.
The attack was well planned; it was set to take place three days before Caesar was to leave for the east to fight the Parthians. The Senate would convene in the Curia of Pompey. Caesar had himself carried in on a sedan chair. When he stepped out, Artemidorus of Cnidus, a Greek scholar who apparently knew of the conspiracy, came up to him with a scroll in his hand. He handed Caesar the scroll. When Artemidorus saw him pass the scroll to a servant he told Caesar to read the text as it contained important information for him. But Caesar did not listen and walked on. At the entrance to the Curia stood the soothsayer Spurinna. Caesar saw him and said, ‘The Ides of March are here and nothing has happened.’ Spurinna replied, ‘Indeed, the Ides are here, but the day is not over yet.’ Caesar entered the Senate and the senators rose to greet him. He walked through their midst to his seat, just in front of the statue of Pompey. A number of senators positioned themselves behind his chair, and a few of them walked up to him as if they had something to ask him. Tillius Cimber was the first to address him. When Caesar refused him and told him he would have to wait, Cimber grabbed Caesar’s toga at the shoulders with both hands. Caesar tried to break free and cried out, ‘This is violence!’ At that moment the
other conspirators leapt into action. One of the Casca brothers stabbed Caesar in the back of the neck, but he reacted instantly, grabbing Casca’s arm and stabbing him with his stylus. Caesar tried to get away, but the thrust of another dagger made escape impossible. He now saw the raised daggers pointing at him on all sides. Caesar had been a proud man all his life, and he remained so in his final struggle. He realised he could no longer escape his fate, but he did not want anyone to see him die in his own blood. He covered his head with his toga and simultaneously pulled down the folds of his garment over his feet. The senators stabbed him twenty-three times with knives and daggers, but he endured it all without saying a word, uttering only a quiet moan when he felt the first knife go in. When Marcus Brutus fell upon him, he is said to have asked, ‘You too Brutus?’ The physician Antistius later said that of all the wounds, only one had been fatal. The conspirators intended to throw Caesar’s body in the Tiber, but fear of Caesar’s political ally Mark Antony, who was then consul, made them change their minds. Caesar’s body was carried back to his house by three devoted slaves. After the reading of the will at Mark Antony’s house, the magistrates and ex-magistrates carried the dictator’s body to the Forum on an ivory bed of state. There was some hesitation about whether the funeral bier should be burned in the Temple of Jupiter Capitolinus or the Curia of Pompey. Just then two people suddenly set the bed of state alight with candles. Bystanders threw everything they had with them on to the fire, even jewellery. Later a marble pillar was erected on the Forum, and in- scribed on the pedestal were the words, ‘For the father of the country.’
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Post by aben 9/23/2018, 15:31

dobro da ni viknu čuvajte mi rim, poredak i zajednicu noroda

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Post by Guest 9/23/2018, 16:54

još bolje: čuvajte mi bratstvo i jedinstvo
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Post by kic 9/23/2018, 18:06


meni su puno zanimljiviji znakovi koje je ignorirao: njegov san, ženin san, razgovor o poželjnoj smrti s prijateljima, prorokovo upozorenje da dan jos nije prosao, ignoriranje tajnr poruke od Grka na kojoj je vjerokatno pisalo da bježi..

inače kopirano iz knjige: https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Dont-Die-Bed-Meijer/dp/0415312027
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Post by Speare Shaker 9/23/2018, 18:15

metilda wrote:još bolje: čuvajte mi bratstvo i jedinstvo

... naših naroda i narodnosti.

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Post by Speare Shaker 9/23/2018, 18:20

kic wrote:
meni su puno zanimljiviji znakovi koje je ignorirao: njegov san, ženin san, razgovor o poželjnoj smrti s prijateljima, prorokovo upozorenje da dan jos nije prosao, ignoriranje tajnr poruke od Grka na kojoj je vjerokatno pisalo da bježi..

inače kopirano iz knjige: https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Dont-Die-Bed-Meijer/dp/0415312027

Snovi su svakako bezvezarija, hrpa slabo povezanih ili potpuno nepovezanih podataka koji se premještaju po memoriji u procesu odmaranja mozga. Doduše, u antičko vrijeme se nije tako promišljalo, ali to čak i nije problem, jer je riječ o davnoj prošlosti, nego činjenica da se snove previše uzimalo za ozbiljno praktički donedavno zbog Freudovih neznanstvenih bezvezarija koje su se duboko usjekle u popularnu kulturu.
Osim toga, tada je bila vrlo raširena vjera da je sudbina svakog čovjeka unaprijed čvrsto određena i neizbježna pa je takva njegova reakcija zapravo prilično logična.

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Speare Shaker wrote:
kic wrote:
meni su puno zanimljiviji znakovi koje je ignorirao: njegov san, ženin san, razgovor o poželjnoj smrti s prijateljima, prorokovo upozorenje da dan jos nije prosao, ignoriranje tajnr poruke od Grka na kojoj je vjerokatno pisalo da bježi..

inače kopirano iz knjige: https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Dont-Die-Bed-Meijer/dp/0415312027

Snovi su svakako bezvezarija, hrpa slabo povezanih ili potpuno nepovezanih podataka koji se premještaju po memoriji u procesu odmaranja mozga. Doduše, u antičko vrijeme se nije tako promišljalo, ali to čak i nije problem, jer je riječ o davnoj prošlosti, nego činjenica da se snove previše uzimalo za ozbiljno praktički donedavno zbog Freudovih neznanstvenih bezvezarija koje su se duboko usjekle u popularnu kulturu.
Osim toga, tada je bila vrlo raširena vjera da je sudbina svakog čovjeka unaprijed čvrsto određena i neizbježna pa je takva njegova reakcija zapravo prilično logična.

snovi nisu bezvezarija. jedina bezvezarija su tvoji komentari očito ti se mozak ne defragmentira kako treba pa imaš problema sa interpretacijom snova. inače između ostalog dokazano je da su ondašnji rimljani imali izoštrenija osjetila nego današnji ljudi tako su na primjer vidjeli više nijansi iste boje koje današnji ljudi uopće ne vide. to što Cezar nije slušao sva ta upozorenja je netočno jer je točno znao što mu se sprema ali nije mogao ništa jer protiv njega se okrenuo tzv. deep state. znači najlojalniji ljudi u izvršnoj vlasti, vojska i policija ako je takve uopće bilo recimo osobna garda.

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Post by kic 9/23/2018, 18:37


gnječ je mislim više u pravu, jer je sljedeći trijumvirat: Oktavijan, Marko i Lepid, prvo pobio pola senata kad su došli na vlast-
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Post by kic 9/23/2018, 18:38


a i ne vjerujem da su snovi baš bezvezarija, ne mislim da se otkriva budućnost u svakom snu, ali ako vrijeme i našu sudbinu shvaćamo nelinearnom, i jednim dijelom već napisanom, onda to ima više smisla, Cezar je umro na način kako je i živio, nasilno, ali opet dostojanstveno..
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meni su puno zanimljiviji znakovi koje je ignorirao: njegov san, ženin san, razgovor o poželjnoj smrti s prijateljima, prorokovo upozorenje da dan jos nije prosao, ignoriranje tajnr poruke od Grka na kojoj je vjerokatno pisalo da bježi..

inače kopirano iz knjige: https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Dont-Die-Bed-Meijer/dp/0415312027

Snovi su svakako bezvezarija, hrpa slabo povezanih ili potpuno nepovezanih podataka koji se premještaju po memoriji u procesu odmaranja mozga. Doduše, u antičko vrijeme se nije tako promišljalo, ali to čak i nije problem, jer je riječ o davnoj prošlosti, nego činjenica da se snove previše uzimalo za ozbiljno praktički donedavno zbog Freudovih neznanstvenih bezvezarija koje su se duboko usjekle u popularnu kulturu.
Osim toga, tada je bila vrlo raširena vjera da je sudbina svakog čovjeka unaprijed čvrsto određena i neizbježna pa je takva njegova reakcija zapravo prilično logična.

snovi nisu bezvezarija. jedina bezvezarija su tvoji komentari očito ti se mozak ne defragmentira kako treba pa imaš problema sa interpretacijom snova. inače između ostalog dokazano je da su ondašnji rimljani imali izoštrenija osjetila nego današnji ljudi tako su na primjer vidjeli više nijansi iste boje koje današnji ljudi uopće ne vide. to što Cezar nije slušao sva ta upozorenja je netočno jer je točno znao što mu se sprema ali nije mogao ništa jer protiv njega se okrenuo tzv. deep state. znači najlojalniji ljudi u izvršnoj vlasti, vojska i policija ako je takve uopće bilo recimo osobna garda.

šejker glup si.

A kako komentirati mišljenje jedne drljave budaletine poput tebe koja posebno jako ispada glupom kada se pravi pametnijim nego što zapravo jeste?
Najbolje nikako, jer je sve ionako uzalud, nebitno što sudbina u čvrstom smislu zapravo ne postoji odnosno nije unaprijed određena.
Što se tiče snova, da, analogija sa defragmentacijom mozga je mislim sasvim odgovarajuća i prilično slikovita i lako ju je shvatiti, a ja sam sa njom izašao na forumu 2005. godine kada to još nitko u svijetu nije spominjao. Sada to čine mnogi i mnogi što je lako ustanoviti običnim guglanjem. :)
Da je Freudova intepretacija snova notorna idiotarija u koju vjeruju još samo primitivci tipa onih koji smatraju da se Sunce okreće oko Zemlje dovoljno svjedoči i činjenica da danas neuroznanosti Freuda uopće ne smatraju znanstvenikom nego u najboljem slučaju filozofom. Makar doduše u dijelovima prilično dobrim, ali ne u onom dijelu koji govori o snovima. Čovjek je određivao terapiju kakva se danas smatra ciganskim gatanjem i držao ju je bez ikakvih pozitivnih efekata i više od dvije godine premda je čak i tad bio standard da se napušta nakon pola godine ako nema pozitivnih efekata. Očito s jedne strane nije bio spreman priznati svoje pogreške, a s druge mu je odgovaralo da mu bogati pacijenti plaćaju terapije što je dulje moguće.
To inače vrijedi i za Junga.
Što se tiče izoštrenijih osjetila ljudi iz antike, to je druga tema, a također i djelovanje politike u Rimu na Cezarovu sudbinu, a ja sam samo naveo činjenicu čvrstog uvjerenja čak i misaono veoma potkovanih ljudi toga ili i nešto kasnijeg doba (stoici) da je sudbina unaprijed čvrsto određena i da se ne može izbjeći.

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gnječ je mislim više u pravu, jer je sljedeći trijumvirat: Oktavijan, Marko i Lepid, prvo pobio pola senata kad su došli na vlast-

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Post by Speare Shaker 9/23/2018, 18:51

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a i ne vjerujem da su snovi baš bezvezarija

Ne moraš, ali tako realno stoje stvari. No, razumijem da je se premnogima jako teško odreći starih zabluda, bilo onih vlastitih tako još više onih koje su usvojili iz pop trash kulture odnosno preko manje ili više primitivnog pomodarstva.
Jedina korist koju nam snovi mogu donijeti je uvid u teme koje nas preokupiraju, čak i kada su generirane fizičkim stanjem organizma, bolestima i slično, a i to u prisutno u puno manjoj mjeri nego se uobičajeno misli.

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Post by Guest 9/23/2018, 18:54

Speare Shaker wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
Speare Shaker wrote:
kic wrote:
meni su puno zanimljiviji znakovi koje je ignorirao: njegov san, ženin san, razgovor o poželjnoj smrti s prijateljima, prorokovo upozorenje da dan jos nije prosao, ignoriranje tajnr poruke od Grka na kojoj je vjerokatno pisalo da bježi..

inače kopirano iz knjige: https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Dont-Die-Bed-Meijer/dp/0415312027

Snovi su svakako bezvezarija, hrpa slabo povezanih ili potpuno nepovezanih podataka koji se premještaju po memoriji u procesu odmaranja mozga. Doduše, u antičko vrijeme se nije tako promišljalo, ali to čak i nije problem, jer je riječ o davnoj prošlosti, nego činjenica da se snove previše uzimalo za ozbiljno praktički donedavno zbog Freudovih neznanstvenih bezvezarija koje su se duboko usjekle u popularnu kulturu.
Osim toga, tada je bila vrlo raširena vjera da je sudbina svakog čovjeka unaprijed čvrsto određena i neizbježna pa je takva njegova reakcija zapravo prilično logična.

snovi nisu bezvezarija. jedina bezvezarija su tvoji komentari očito ti se mozak ne defragmentira kako treba pa imaš problema sa interpretacijom snova. inače između ostalog dokazano je da su ondašnji rimljani imali izoštrenija osjetila nego današnji ljudi tako su na primjer vidjeli više nijansi iste boje koje današnji ljudi uopće ne vide. to što Cezar nije slušao sva ta upozorenja je netočno jer je točno znao što mu se sprema ali nije mogao ništa jer protiv njega se okrenuo tzv. deep state. znači najlojalniji ljudi u izvršnoj vlasti, vojska i policija ako je takve uopće bilo recimo osobna garda.

šejker glup si.

A kako komentirati mišljenje jedne drljave budaletine poput tebe koja posebno jako ispada glupom kada se pravi pametnijim nego što zapravo jeste?
Najbolje nikako, jer je sve ionako uzalud, nebitno što sudbina u čvrstom smislu zapravo ne postoji odnosno nije unaprijed određena.
Što se tiče snova, da, analogija sa defragmentacijom mozga je mislim sasvim odgovarajuća i prilično slikovita i lako ju je shvatiti, a ja sam sa njom izašao na forumu 2005. godine kada to još nitko u svijetu nije spominjao. Sada to čine mnogi i mnogi što je lako ustanoviti običnim guglanjem. :)
Da je Freudova intepretacija snova notorna idiotarija u koju vjeruju još samo primitivci tipa onih koji smatraju da se Sunce okreće oko Zemlje dovoljno svjedoči i činjenica da danas neuroznanosti Freuda uopće ne smatraju znanstvenikom nego u najboljem slučaju filozofom. Makar doduše u dijelovima prilično dobrim, ali ne u onom dijelu koji govori o snovima. Čovjek je određivao terapiju kakva se danas smatra ciganskim gatanjem i držao ju je bez ikakvih pozitivnih efekata i više od dvije godine premda je čak i tad bio standard da se napušta nakon pola godine ako nema pozitivnih efekata. Očito s jedne strane nije bio spreman priznati svoje pogreške, a s druge mu je odgovaralo da mu bogati pacijenti plaćaju terapije što je dulje moguće.
To inače vrijedi i za Junga.
Što se tiče izoštrenijih osjetila ljudi iz antike, to je druga tema, a također i djelovanje politike u Rimu na Cezarovu sudbinu, a ja sam samo naveo činjenicu čvrstog uvjerenja čak i misaono veoma potkovanih ljudi toga ili i nešto kasnijeg doba (stoici) da je sudbina unaprijed čvrsto određena i da se ne može izbjeći.

za boldano nemaš dokaza. ma trebao sam ti boldati cijeli tvoj post jer obiluje budalaštinama.
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Post by aben 9/23/2018, 18:57

ti si izmisli analogiju snova i defragmentcije?
interesantno, i jo sun je isto izmisli:)

ali, loša nan je analogija. mozak is certanly not defragmenting. mozak ni hard disk, i ne koristi prostor i čitač, da bi mu različite lokacije činile problijem...

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Post by Speare Shaker 9/23/2018, 18:59

Gnječ wrote:
Speare Shaker wrote:
Gnječ wrote:
Speare Shaker wrote:
kic wrote:
meni su puno zanimljiviji znakovi koje je ignorirao: njegov san, ženin san, razgovor o poželjnoj smrti s prijateljima, prorokovo upozorenje da dan jos nije prosao, ignoriranje tajnr poruke od Grka na kojoj je vjerokatno pisalo da bježi..

inače kopirano iz knjige: https://www.amazon.com/Emperors-Dont-Die-Bed-Meijer/dp/0415312027

Snovi su svakako bezvezarija, hrpa slabo povezanih ili potpuno nepovezanih podataka koji se premještaju po memoriji u procesu odmaranja mozga. Doduše, u antičko vrijeme se nije tako promišljalo, ali to čak i nije problem, jer je riječ o davnoj prošlosti, nego činjenica da se snove previše uzimalo za ozbiljno praktički donedavno zbog Freudovih neznanstvenih bezvezarija koje su se duboko usjekle u popularnu kulturu.
Osim toga, tada je bila vrlo raširena vjera da je sudbina svakog čovjeka unaprijed čvrsto određena i neizbježna pa je takva njegova reakcija zapravo prilično logična.

snovi nisu bezvezarija. jedina bezvezarija su tvoji komentari očito ti se mozak ne defragmentira kako treba pa imaš problema sa interpretacijom snova. inače između ostalog dokazano je da su ondašnji rimljani imali izoštrenija osjetila nego današnji ljudi tako su na primjer vidjeli više nijansi iste boje koje današnji ljudi uopće ne vide. to što Cezar nije slušao sva ta upozorenja je netočno jer je točno znao što mu se sprema ali nije mogao ništa jer protiv njega se okrenuo tzv. deep state. znači najlojalniji ljudi u izvršnoj vlasti, vojska i policija ako je takve uopće bilo recimo osobna garda.

šejker glup si.

A kako komentirati mišljenje jedne drljave budaletine poput tebe koja posebno jako ispada glupom kada se pravi pametnijim nego što zapravo jeste?
Najbolje nikako, jer je sve ionako uzalud, nebitno što sudbina u čvrstom smislu zapravo ne postoji odnosno nije unaprijed određena.
Što se tiče snova, da, analogija sa defragmentacijom mozga je mislim sasvim odgovarajuća i prilično slikovita i lako ju je shvatiti, a ja sam sa njom izašao na forumu 2005. godine kada to još nitko u svijetu nije spominjao. Sada to čine mnogi i mnogi što je lako ustanoviti običnim guglanjem. :)
Da je Freudova intepretacija snova notorna idiotarija u koju vjeruju još samo primitivci tipa onih koji smatraju da se Sunce okreće oko Zemlje dovoljno svjedoči i činjenica da danas neuroznanosti Freuda uopće ne smatraju znanstvenikom nego u najboljem slučaju filozofom. Makar doduše u dijelovima prilično dobrim, ali ne u onom dijelu koji govori o snovima. Čovjek je određivao terapiju kakva se danas smatra ciganskim gatanjem i držao ju je bez ikakvih pozitivnih efekata i više od dvije godine premda je čak i tad bio standard da se napušta nakon pola godine ako nema pozitivnih efekata. Očito s jedne strane nije bio spreman priznati svoje pogreške, a s druge mu je odgovaralo da mu bogati pacijenti plaćaju terapije što je dulje moguće.
To inače vrijedi i za Junga.
Što se tiče izoštrenijih osjetila ljudi iz antike, to je druga tema, a također i djelovanje politike u Rimu na Cezarovu sudbinu, a ja sam samo naveo činjenicu čvrstog uvjerenja čak i misaono veoma potkovanih ljudi toga ili i nešto kasnijeg doba (stoici) da je sudbina unaprijed čvrsto određena i da se ne može izbjeći.

za boldano nemaš dokaza. ma trebao sam ti boldati cijeli tvoj post jer obiluje budalaštinama.

Za boldano o mojem upisu iz 2005. itekako imam dokaza. :) Pod nadimkom masovnahisterija. Čudi me da uopće sumnjaš u to.
Da sudbina nije čvrsto određena vjeruje danas doslovce svaka škola mišljenja, aktualna filozofija i posebno znanost. To se smatra notornom činjenicom koju uopće nije niti potrebno dokazivati jer je odavno dokazana doslovce bezbroj puta.
Da si ti to što jesi također nemam potrebu dokazivati jer si to sam učinio doslovce bezbroj puta kako na starom tako i na ovom forumu.
Usprkos tome, bio bih krajnje intelektualno nepošten kada bih rekao da baš svaki tvoj post obiluje budalaštinama jednostavno zato jer to nije istina. I tebi se ponekad omakne da kažeš nešto pametno.

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Post by Speare Shaker 9/23/2018, 19:04

aben wrote:ti si izmisli analogiju snova i defragmentcije?
interesantno, i jo sun je isto izmisli:)

ali, loša nan je analogija. mozak is certanly not defragmenting. mozak ni hard disk, i ne koristi prostor i čitač, da bi mu različite lokacije činile problijem...

Ne kažem da sam izmislio, samo da se guglanjem i na druge načine nije moglo doći do informacije da je 2005. kada sam ja na forumu objavio tu analogiju (za što imam i pisani dokaz) nije moglo pronaći da je istu iznio bilo tko u svijetu. :)
Barem na engleskom i jezicima koji su nam uobičajeno poznati. Kineski, japanski i slične nažalost ne koristim pa ne mogu znati je li ti itko učinio na nekom od tih jezika (lako moguće).
Inače, kada si ti došao do iste analogije? :)
I da, analogija zapravo jest prilično dobra jer mozak jeste hardware neke vrste, pa možemo slobodno reći i hard disk (plus procesor, chipset, RAM itd.), premda tu stvari funkcioniraju osjetno složenije nego kada je PC standard u pitanju.
S druge strane um predstavlja software u njegovom najvećem dijelu, osim onih temeljnih programa koji su već sadržani u hardwareu (mozgu).

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