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Post by kic 22/12/2016, 01:49


Submitted by Jeff Thomas via InterntionalMan.com,

Back in 2008, I began warning of increasing capital controls that we would see in the future, as a component in the decline of Western economies (Western in the broad sense, including Japan, Australia, etc.)

Along the way, it occurred to me that, at some point, governments might collectively attempt to eliminate paper currency in favour of an electronic currency - transferred from party to party solely through licensed banks. Sound farfetched? Well, maybe, but what if the U.S. and EU agreed on an overall plan, then suggested it to other governments? On the face of it, this smacks of conspiracy theory, yet certainly, all governments would benefit from this control and would be likely to get on board. In fact, it might prove to be the only way out of their present economic problems.

So, how would it play out? Here’s roughly how I saw Phase I:

Link the free movement of cash to terrorism (Create a consciousness that any movement of large sums suggests criminal activity.);
Establish upper limits on the amount of money that can be moved without reporting to some government investigatory agency;
Periodically lower those limits;
Accustom people to making all purchases, however small or large, through a bank card;
Create a consciousness that the mere possession of cash is suspect, since it’s no longer “necessary”.
When I first wrote on the subject, there was considerable criticism as to the possibility that such a programme would ever be attempted, let alone succeed. And, granted, it was so Orwellian that it was understandably seen as a crackpot idea. But since that time, the programme has been developing extremely rapidly. In the last six months alone, it has become so visible that it has even garnered a name - “the War on Cash”.

References in the media have been made that terrorist groups fund their attacks with cash. Dozens of countries have placed limits on the maximum amount of money that can be moved without reporting. Some, notably France, have already begun lowering their limits. Banks in some countries, notably Sweden, are already treating all cash transactions as suspicious. The previously theoretical Phase I is now well under way.

This issue has expanded more quickly than I’d anticipated. Clearly, the governments that are forcing it into being are running out of time. There can only be one reason why they’d rush a programme that normally would be given more time for people to accept, and that’s that they see a crash coming before they can get Phase II of the programme underway.

Although most anyone who’s paying attention recognises that Phase I is in motion, Phase II (as I perceive it) is not yet on the radar, but I believe it will be soon. Phase II will be the second wave of measures and they will be more draconian than Phase I:

- Create a definitive false flag event that demonstrates how physical cash is the primary means of funding evil acts in the world;
- Declare a date on which paper currency will become illegal (Until that date, it can be deposited into a bank. After that date, it becomes criminal to possess it.);
- Once all cash has been deposited in banks, increase negative interest rates;
- Confiscation of deposits can then be implemented, as desired, by banks (Confiscation of deposits is already legal in Canada, the U.S., and the EU.);
- Confiscate contents of selected safe deposit boxes;
- End “voluntary” taxation. All taxation will, in future, be by direct debit;
- Declare money to be the property of the State that issued it. (The people are allowed to trade in it, but it is not truly theirs. The State therefore can freeze or confiscate the funds in any account, if any crime is “suspected”.).

In recent months, I’ve warned repeatedly that, since confiscations of deposits will take place, we must assume that banks will additionally raid safe deposit boxes, as stated in the above list. Some banks, beginning with JPMorgan Chase, have placed limits on what forms of wealth can be placed in safe deposit boxes. Since then, Greece has taken this one step further. In future, Greek citizens will be required to declare cash exceeding €15,000, jewellery and precious stones valued at over €30,000 and declare the location of the safe deposit box in which they’re stored.

The declaration is fraught with difficulties for the depositor, as he bears the obligation to accurately appraise each item. Should authorities disagree with the appraisal of, say, Grandma’s diamond brooch, the depositor would be suspect and may face confiscation.

State Wealth Control

Once Phase II is completed, state wealth control will exist. And, again, this prediction will seem at first glance to be Orwellian - a mere fiction. But then, less than a year ago, the War on Cash was regarded by only a few as being even within the realm of possibility, let alone right around the corner. And so it is with Phase II. Now that Phase I is in motion, it’s accepted as an unsettling reality, but Phase II is the obvious sequel.

If you have cash in a bank, you think of it as your own. This is not the case. It’s wealth that you’ve loaned to the bank. In the future, the bank (with governmental approval) will have the power to decide if and when they will return all, or a part, of that cash to you. They will set the rules as to how that decision will be arrived at and those rules will be changed periodically. Since those rules will be arrived at by the banks (without need for your consent), the outcome will most certainly not be in your favour.

Those who read this statement might react in one of three ways:

“This can’t be happening.”
“Okay, it’s happening, but there’s nothing I can do about it. It’s global.”
“There must be something I can do to keep from being robbed.”

The first group will be the largest. They will freeze up, do little or nothing, and become victims.

The second group may complain and even struggle a bit against these developments, but won’t prepare sufficiently and, ultimately, will also become victims.

The third group will seek alternatives, and here’s where the light appears at the end of the tunnel. Yes, this effort will be international, but it won’t be fully global. There will be those jurisdictions that, traditionally, have not been willing to fall into line with the world’s foremost powers. They will not wish to go off the same cliff as the others and will take a different tack. They will be the recipients of those people who seek to escape the collapsing system. But, more than ever before, time is limited; the window is clearly closing.

Escape from Confiscation
The solution is surprisingly simple, although it will take work and dedication:

- If you’re a resident of any jurisdiction that’s presently going down this road, move your money to a jurisdiction that has a consistent history for stable government, low (or no) direct taxation, and minimal interference or regulation over wealth;
- Convert your wealth into those forms of assets that are hardest for rapacious governments to confiscate (foreign-held precious metals and real estate);
- Create an exit plan for your own physical escape, should it become necessary.
Editor’s Note: The War on Cash and negative interest rates are radical and insane measures. They are a sign of desperation.

They are also huge threats to your financial security. Central planners are playing with fire and inviting a currency catastrophe.

Most people have no idea what really happens when a currency collapses, let alone how to prepare…

How will you protect your savings in the event of a currency crisis? This just-released video will show you exactly how. Click here to watch it now.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-12/international-war-cash
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Post by Guest 22/12/2016, 01:55

od 1.1.2017 u RH zakon da država bez posebnih dozvola kontrolira naše tekuće račune.

Dakle šta možete u toj situaciji ako nešto love dobijate na tekući , tipa iz inozemstva ili rentanjem ili radeći freelance poslove.

Sjednete u auto-
odete u Bosnu. većini Hrvatske je BiH u dometu 2h vožnje.
u nekoj banci otvorite tekući kao strani resident.
lovu šaljete tamo. (naravno ako nisu pre-ogromni iznosi)
svako par mjeseci kada trebate cash, sjednete u auto, natankate 200kn goriva, i podigenete tipa 5000€ i unesete u Rh bez problema. čist novac ko suza
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Post by govinda 22/12/2016, 02:02

Pa to se desilo u Njujorku, kad su bile one demonstracije Ocupy Wall street..usli ljudi u banku da ugase svoje racune i podignu novac, banka istog momenta objavila da ne radi vise, pozvali policiju i policija uhapsila svakoga ko je htio podici svoj novac iz banke..bio je snimak na youtube, ne znam da li je jos tamo..

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Post by govinda 22/12/2016, 02:04

Pinochet wrote:od 1.1.2017 u RH zakon da država bez posebnih dozvola kontrolira naše tekuće račune.

Dakle šta možete u toj situaciji ako nešto love dobijate na tekući , tipa iz inozemstva ili rentanjem ili radeći freelance poslove.

Sjednete u auto-
odete u Bosnu. većini Hrvatske je BiH u dometu 2h vožnje.
u nekoj banci otvorite tekući kao strani resident.
lovu šaljete tamo.  (naravno ako nisu pre-ogromni iznosi)
svako par mjeseci kada trebate cash, sjednete u auto, natankate 200kn goriva, i podigenete tipa 5000€ i unesete u Rh bez problema. čist novac ko suza
ne znam za RH ali kod nas svaki iznos preko 1000 km se prijavljuje Agenciji za bakarstvo plus jos nekim agencijama...banka to automatski prijavi..mislim uplatu vani preko tog iznosa...a i ne mozes kod nas tek tako otvoriti racun u banci kao stranac...

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Post by govinda 22/12/2016, 02:08

ovo su rezidenti po nasim zakonima

Rezidenti su:
- pravne osobe sa sjedištem u Bosni i Hercegovini, osim predstavništava ovih osoba koja se nalaze izvan Bosne i Hercegovine,
- predstavništva, podružnice i drugi organizacijski dijelovi stranih pravnih osoba upisanih u registar nadležnog organa u Bosni i Hercegovini,
- poduzetnici (obrtnici i trgovci), koji samostalno obavljaju djelatnost radi stjecanja dohodtka  i registrirani su kod nadležnog organa (u daljnjem tekstu: poduzetnici),
- fizičke osobe s prebivalištem u Bosni i Hercegovini, osim fizičkih osoba čiji privremeni boravak u inozemstvu traje dulje od jedne godine,
- fizičke osobe – strani državljani koji u Bosni i Hercegovini borave na temelju dozvole za boravak, odnosno radne vize, dulje od 183 dana, osim diplomatskih i konzularnih predstavnika stranih zemalja te članova njihovih obitelji,
- diplomatska, konzularna i druga predstavništva iz Bosne i Hercegovine u inozemstvu koja se financiraju iz proračuna te državljani Bosne i Hercegovine zaposleni u tim predstavništvima i članovi njihovih obitelji.

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Post by govinda 22/12/2016, 02:10

ta tvoja prica moze proci jedino tipa da meni saljes novac, manje sume i onda dodjes svaka tri mjeseca po cash...ali to se smatra pranjem novca...

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Post by Guest 22/12/2016, 02:14

govinda wrote:ta tvoja prica moze proci jedino tipa da meni saljes novac, manje sume i onda dodjes svaka tri mjeseca po cash...ali to se smatra pranjem novca...

ovo gore što sam napisao, neki likovi su radili, ali budem provjerio..

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Post by govinda 22/12/2016, 02:18

Pinochet wrote:
govinda wrote:ta tvoja prica moze proci jedino tipa da meni saljes novac, manje sume i onda dodjes svaka tri mjeseca po cash...ali to se smatra pranjem novca...

ovo gore što sam napisao, neki likovi su radili, ali budem provjerio..

provjeri...doduse, zavisi i od banke...poslovnica u Donjim Pizdicima i poslovnica u Sarajevu i Mostaru nece sigurno u nekim stvarima postupiti isto...

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Post by Guest 22/12/2016, 02:20

govinda wrote:
Pinochet wrote:
govinda wrote:ta tvoja prica moze proci jedino tipa da meni saljes novac, manje sume i onda dodjes svaka tri mjeseca po cash...ali to se smatra pranjem novca...

ovo gore što sam napisao, neki likovi su radili, ali budem provjerio..

provjeri...doduse, zavisi i od banke...poslovnica u Donjim Pizdicima i poslovnica u Sarajevu i Mostaru nece sigurno u nekim stvarima postupiti isto...

neka poslovnica u Livnu gdje mi radi kolega sa faksa bi mogla mi izaći u susret..

uglavnom ovo gdje naša država ti bez ikakvih problema sve nadzire mi se totalno nesviđa..

jebo im ***** ***er i Mariću i Plenkiju i HDZu
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Post by govinda 22/12/2016, 02:23

iz
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govinda wrote:
Pinochet wrote:
govinda wrote:ta tvoja prica moze proci jedino tipa da meni saljes novac, manje sume i onda dodjes svaka tri mjeseca po cash...ali to se smatra pranjem novca...

ovo gore što sam napisao, neki likovi su radili, ali budem provjerio..

provjeri...doduse, zavisi i od banke...poslovnica u Donjim Pizdicima i poslovnica u Sarajevu i Mostaru nece sigurno u nekim stvarima postupiti isto...

neka poslovnica u Livnu gdje mi radi kolega sa faksa bi mogla mi izaći u susret..

uglavnom ovo gdje naša država ti bez ikakvih problema sve nadzire mi se totalno nesviđa..

jebo im ***** ***er i Mariću i Plenkiju i HDZu
super, samo ne pretjeruj sa iznosima...nema novca, zato i nadziru..gledaju da ti uzmu svaku paru ako mogu, vrlo jednostavan i prost razlog...naravno, to ce pokriti pricom o sprecavanju pranja novca, izbjegavanja poreznih obaveza ili cak borbom protiv finansiranja terorizma...drzavna aparatura, paraziti i glodavci, nista drugo...

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Post by Kermit 22/12/2016, 08:07

http://ex-iskon.forumcroatian.com/t5668-bloomberg-i-liberalne-elite-zahtijevaju-ukidanje-gotovog-novca
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Post by Regoč 22/12/2016, 10:18

Kao što su ukinuli zlatni novac i zabranili njegovo posjedovanje, isto će biti s papirnim novcem.

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Post by Guest 22/12/2016, 12:56

nitko nije zabranio posjedovanje zlatnika, samo što nemaju funkciju novca nego su ukrasni predmeti, umjetnina


ova tema dobro pokazuje kolika bolest vlada tu na forumu, sad vam je i papir pravi novac? :^0
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Post by Guest 22/12/2016, 13:22

virtualna valuta Bitcoin je pravi novac, a državni novac u elektroničkom obliku je prevara

država nema papira, zato nam hoće uzeti naš papir, papir je pravi novac, brojke na računu su prevara
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Post by Guest 22/12/2016, 14:15

deda neradi se o tome što misliš, nego o osobnim slobodama , osobnim slobodama koje država smanjuje tako da će kontrolirati sve .. evo kod nas ide zakon da ti država sada može ući odmah na tekući račun prije je trebala posebna dozvola tipa ako su sumnjali itd.. zato država i zapošljava 90poreznika, vjerojatno posli nove godine ljude će hapsiti i naplaćivati im porez tipa ako su preko tekućeg primali tipa rentu od 200€mjesečno , ili netko primi neku uplatu od kaldionice, ili nekoga drugog businessa

zato se normalni ljudi, iako ovdje epikur i asila često govore da su "protiv nevidljive ruke" ali u stvarnosti većina ljudi želi biti slobodna i većina ljudi ne vjeruje državnim institucijama, jer naša država RH uglavnom ljude kažnja i neda im disati, a za uzvrat ljudi ne dobijaju ništa.. (zato iz države iseljava 1000 mladih svaki tjedan).


što se tiče bitcoina, fala kurcu imam bitcoin , koristio sam ga za neka plaćanja, ali evo ima bitcoin automat jedan u splitu, ali gledam uzimaju dosta veliku proviziju, tipa skoro 5-6%, međutim čak i ta provizija je puno manja nego država koja će ti uzeti 50% preko poreza što bi ti obračunala da si neki nezaposleni freelancer itd..



ljudi ne vjeruju više državi

porezi i regulacije su velike, država kupi pare i kažnjava, napiše "zakon" i onda "izglasa" zakon i guzi sposobne, u takvom sustavu samo uhljebi profitiraju

a od te love koju država pokupi, većina građana nema neke koristi(osim uhljeba) političari i uhljebi se bogate, mali iseljavaju, ovako netko sposobniji tko zna okreniti lovu van sustava, sada država cilja i njih.. cilj je pokupiti i taj novac tako da zaposli još više HDZovaca na izmišljena radna mjesta


obični građani imaju malo koristi od drže s obzirom na razinu poreza i regulacija koje plaćaju.. zato valjda i 1000 ljudi (mladih radno sposobnih) iseljava iz RH..


odgovor na to bi bio rezanje poreza da se u RH isplati radit, trošit, živit i investirati, i rezanje regulacija, tako da ljudima se isplati čak ulaziti legalno..

recimo znam neke osobe koje se bave nečim, i došli malo do veće love koju više ne možeš "zacrniti", i ekipa otvara firme po švicarskoj dubaiju, estoniji , britaniji , a u Hrvatskoj žive radi bolje klime i jeftinijeg života..

dakle naša država skroz krivo radi
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Post by Guest 22/12/2016, 14:18

inače bitcoin je dobra šema, ima u splitu i ZGu i rijeci bankomat, ali vidio sam da uzimaju 5-10% vrijednosti , što je poprilično, međutim nekada je bolje i njima dati 5-10% nego državi 50-60%
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Post by kic 22/12/2016, 14:23


stogod ljudi prihvacaju kao opce sredstvo placanja brojnih specijaliziranih proizvoda i usluga, je novac u stvari..

ako nemam kontrolu nad njim, vec mi deda i drzava drze moj novac, onda je to samo formalno moj novac..
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Post by Guest 22/12/2016, 14:35

Pinochet wrote:deda neradi se o tome što misliš, nego o osobnim slobodama

zadnjim poreznim izmjenama se povećao neoporezivi dio dohotka

do sad je bilo da ako zarađuješ do 21.600kn u cijeloj godini ne plaćaš nikakav porez

provjeri u računovodstvenom uredu koji se razumije u freelancing, ako ne plaćaš porez, čemu ići u Bosnu

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kic wrote:
stogod ljudi prihvacaju kao opce sredstvo placanja brojnih specijaliziranih proizvoda i usluga, je novac u stvari..

ako nemam kontrolu nad njim, vec mi deda i drzava drze moj novac, onda je to samo formalno moj novac..

novac je brojka, novac nije papir na kojem je otisnut broj, nego je to baš ta otisnuta brojka

i na zlatniku je iskovana brojka

brojke piše država, bilo uvijek i biti će


ako vam nisu jasne brojke, uzmite kakav tečaj iz matematike

ideologija koju slijedite ti i aben nema veze s mozgom
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