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The Age of Trolls
by Guest 8/10/2016, 17:47
Odlican clanak o govoru mrznje, agresiji i nasilju na internetu koji su trollovi pretvorili u septicku jamu. Autor progovara i o stetnom ucinku koji to ima na nas.
Svaka slicnost s forumom je slucajna.
This story is not a good idea. Not for society and certainly not for me. Because what trolls feed on is attention. And this little bit–these several thousand words–is like leaving bears a pan of baklava.
It would be smarter to be cautious, because the Internet’s personality has changed. Once it was a geek with lofty ideals about the free flow of information. Now, if you need help improving your upload speeds the web is eager to help with technical details, but if you tell it you’re struggling with depression it will try to goad you into killing yourself. Psychologists call this the online disinhibition effect, in which factors like anonymity, invisibility, a lack of authority and not communicating in real time strip away the mores society spent millennia building. And it’s seeping from our smartphones into every aspect of our lives.
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But trolling has become the main tool of the alt-right, an Internet-grown reactionary movement that works for men’s rights and against immigration and may have used the computer from Weird Science to fabricate Donald Trump.
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The alt-right’s favorite insult is to call men who don’t hate feminism “cucks,” as in “cuckold.” Republicans who don’t like Trump are “cuckservatives.” Men who don’t see how feminists are secretly controlling them haven’t “taken the red pill,” a reference to the truth-revealing drug in The Matrix. They derisively call their adversaries “social-justice warriors” and believe that liberal interest groups purposely exploit their weakness to gain pity, which allows them to control the levers of power. Trolling is the alt-right’s version of political activism, and its ranks view any attempt to take it away as a denial of democracy.
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In July, trolls who had long been furious that the 2016 reboot of Ghostbusters starred four women instead of men harassed the film’s black co-star Leslie Jones so badly on Twitter with racist and sexist threats–including a widely copied photo of her at the film’s premiere that someone splattered semen on–that she considered quitting the service. “I was in my apartment by myself, and I felt trapped,” Jones says. “When you’re reading all these gay and racial slurs, it was like, I can’t fight y’all. I didn’t know what to do. Do you call the police? Then they got my email, and they started sending me threats that they were going to cut off my head and stuff they do to ‘N words.’ It’s not done to express an opinion, it’s done to scare you.”
(ovo me podsjeca na forumskog fotosop umjetnika
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Because of Jones’ harassment, alt-right leader Milo Yiannopoulos was permanently banned from Twitter. (He is also an editor at Breitbart News, the conservative website whose executive chairman, Stephen Bannon, was hired Aug. 17 to run the Trump campaign.)
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But last summer, Reddit banned five more discussion groups for being distasteful. The one with the largest user base, more than 150,000 subscribers, was “fatpeoplehate.”
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“The Internet is the realm of the coward. These are people who are all sound and no fury.”
Maybe. But maybe, in the information age, sound is as destructive as fury.
Ako nekoga zanima, cijeli clanak moze procitati ovdje: http://time.com/4457110/internet-trolls/
Svaka slicnost s forumom je slucajna.
This story is not a good idea. Not for society and certainly not for me. Because what trolls feed on is attention. And this little bit–these several thousand words–is like leaving bears a pan of baklava.
It would be smarter to be cautious, because the Internet’s personality has changed. Once it was a geek with lofty ideals about the free flow of information. Now, if you need help improving your upload speeds the web is eager to help with technical details, but if you tell it you’re struggling with depression it will try to goad you into killing yourself. Psychologists call this the online disinhibition effect, in which factors like anonymity, invisibility, a lack of authority and not communicating in real time strip away the mores society spent millennia building. And it’s seeping from our smartphones into every aspect of our lives.
...
But trolling has become the main tool of the alt-right, an Internet-grown reactionary movement that works for men’s rights and against immigration and may have used the computer from Weird Science to fabricate Donald Trump.
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The alt-right’s favorite insult is to call men who don’t hate feminism “cucks,” as in “cuckold.” Republicans who don’t like Trump are “cuckservatives.” Men who don’t see how feminists are secretly controlling them haven’t “taken the red pill,” a reference to the truth-revealing drug in The Matrix. They derisively call their adversaries “social-justice warriors” and believe that liberal interest groups purposely exploit their weakness to gain pity, which allows them to control the levers of power. Trolling is the alt-right’s version of political activism, and its ranks view any attempt to take it away as a denial of democracy.
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In July, trolls who had long been furious that the 2016 reboot of Ghostbusters starred four women instead of men harassed the film’s black co-star Leslie Jones so badly on Twitter with racist and sexist threats–including a widely copied photo of her at the film’s premiere that someone splattered semen on–that she considered quitting the service. “I was in my apartment by myself, and I felt trapped,” Jones says. “When you’re reading all these gay and racial slurs, it was like, I can’t fight y’all. I didn’t know what to do. Do you call the police? Then they got my email, and they started sending me threats that they were going to cut off my head and stuff they do to ‘N words.’ It’s not done to express an opinion, it’s done to scare you.”
(ovo me podsjeca na forumskog fotosop umjetnika
) Because of Jones’ harassment, alt-right leader Milo Yiannopoulos was permanently banned from Twitter. (He is also an editor at Breitbart News, the conservative website whose executive chairman, Stephen Bannon, was hired Aug. 17 to run the Trump campaign.)
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But last summer, Reddit banned five more discussion groups for being distasteful. The one with the largest user base, more than 150,000 subscribers, was “fatpeoplehate.”
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“The Internet is the realm of the coward. These are people who are all sound and no fury.”
Maybe. But maybe, in the information age, sound is as destructive as fury.
Ako nekoga zanima, cijeli clanak moze procitati ovdje: http://time.com/4457110/internet-trolls/
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by Guest 8/10/2016, 18:15
Nisam ni mislila da bi ovakva tema mogla zanimati alt-righters.
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by kic 8/10/2016, 18:19
Milo se uopce ne identificira kao alt-right, procitaj neki njegov tekst pa ces znati da se jasno distancira od njih, njega zanima free speech..
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by Guest 8/10/2016, 18:32
I ustase na ovom forumu se (toboz) distanciraju od ustasluka. Is this credible? I think not.
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by kic 8/10/2016, 18:55
bitna je timesova ocjena 'mi ne mrzimo, oni mrze' i to je to? Milovu izjavu i dapace argumentaciju necemo uzeti u obzir? x) presuda je donesena bez covjeka, jako covjecno..
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/09/19/milo-destroy-alt-right-speech/
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/09/19/milo-destroy-alt-right-speech/
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by Trinity 8/10/2016, 20:04
Mene zanima.
Prema istraživanjima internet trolovi su psihopate , narcisoidni su, makjiavelisti i sadisti.
In this month's issue of Personality and Individual Differences, a study was published that confirms what we all suspected: Internet trolls are horrible people.
Let's start by getting our definitions straight: An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.
What kind of person would do this? Some Canadian researchers decided to find out.
They conducted two online studies with over 1,200 people, giving personality tests to each subject along with a survey about their Internet commenting behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadism.
They found that Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling was their favorite Internet activity. To get an idea of how much more prevalent these traits were among Internet trolls, see this figure from the paper:
Look at how low the Dark Tetrad scores are for everyone except the trolls! Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between trolling and the Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their paper:
The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:
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[*]These trolls are some truly difficult people.
[*]It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
Prema istraživanjima internet trolovi su psihopate , narcisoidni su, makjiavelisti i sadisti.
In this month's issue of Personality and Individual Differences, a study was published that confirms what we all suspected: Internet trolls are horrible people.
Let's start by getting our definitions straight: An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.
What kind of person would do this? Some Canadian researchers decided to find out.
They conducted two online studies with over 1,200 people, giving personality tests to each subject along with a survey about their Internet commenting behavior. They were looking for evidence that linked trolling with the "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits: narcissism, Machiavellianism, psychopathy, and sadism.
They found that Dark Tetrad scores were highest among people who said trolling was their favorite Internet activity. To get an idea of how much more prevalent these traits were among Internet trolls, see this figure from the paper:
Look at how low the Dark Tetrad scores are for everyone except the trolls! Their scores for all four traits soar on the chart. The relationship between trolling and the Dark Tetrad is so significant that the authors write in their paper:
Trolls truly enjoy making you feel bad. To quote the authors once more (because this is a truly quotable article): "Both trolls and sadists feel sadistic glee at the distress of others. Sadists just want to have fun ... and the Internet is their playground!""... the associations between sadism and GAIT (Global Assessment of Internet Trolling) scores were so strong that it might be said that online trolls are prototypical everyday sadists." [emphasis added]
The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:
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[*]These trolls are some truly difficult people.
[*]It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by Trinity 8/10/2016, 20:05
"Dark Tetrad" of personality traits: Everyday sadists take pleasure in others' pain
Most of the time, we try to avoid inflicting pain on others - when we do hurt someone, we typically experience guilt, remorse, or other feelings of distress. But for some, cruelty can be pleasurable, even exciting. New research suggests that this kind of everyday sadism is real and more common than we might think.Two studies led by psychological scientist Erin Buckels of the University of British Columbia revealed that people who score high on a measure of sadism seem to derive pleasure from behaviors that hurt others, and are even willing to expend extra effort to make someone else suffer.
The new findings are published in Psychological Science, a journal of the Association for Psychological Science.
"Some find it hard to reconcile sadism with the concept of 'normal' psychological functioning, but our findings show that sadistic tendencies among otherwise well-adjusted people must be acknowledged," says Buckels. "These people aren't necessarily serial killers or sexual deviants but they gain some emotional benefit in causing or simply observing others' suffering."
Based on their previous work on the "Dark Triad" of personality, Buckels and colleagues Delroy Paulhus of the University of British Columbia and Daniel Jones of the University of Texas El Paso surmised that sadism is a distinct aspect of personality that joins with three others - psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism - to form a "Dark Tetrad" of personality traits.
To test their hypothesis, they decided to examine everyday sadism under controlled laboratory conditions. They recruited 71 participants to take part in a study on "personality and tolerance for challenging jobs." Participants were asked to choose among several unpleasant tasks: killing bugs, helping the experimenter kill bugs, cleaning dirty toilets, or enduring pain from ice water.
Participants who chose bug killing were shown the bug-crunching machine: a modified coffee grinder that produced a distinct crunching sound so as to maximize the gruesomeness of the task. Nearby were cups containing live pill bugs, each cup labeled with the bug's name: Muffin, Ike, and Tootsie.
The participant's job was to drop the bugs into the machine, force down the cover, and "grind them up." The participants didn't know that a barrier actually prevented the bugs from being ground up and that no bugs were harmed in the experiment.
Of the 71 participants, 12.7% chose the pain-tolerance task, 33.8% chose the toilet-cleaning task, 26.8% chose to help kill bugs, and 26.8% chose to kill bugs.
Participants who chose bug killing had the highest scores on a scale measuring sadistic impulses, just as the researchers predicted. The more sadistic the participant was, the more likely he or she was to choose bug killing over the other options, even when their scores on Dark Triad measures, fear of bugs, and sensitivity to disgust were taken into account.
Participants with high levels of sadism who chose to kill bugs reported taking significantly greater pleasure in the task than those who chose another task, and their pleasure seemed to correlate with the number of bugs they killed, suggesting that sadistic behavior may hold some sort of reward value for those participants.
And a second study revealed that, of the participants who rated high on one of the "dark" personality traits, only sadists chose to intensify blasts of white noise directed at an innocent opponent when they realized the opponent wouldn't fight back. They were also the only ones willing to expend additional time and energy to be able to blast the innocent opponent with the noise.
Together, these results suggest that sadists possess an intrinsic motivation to inflict suffering on innocent others, even at a personal cost - a motivation that is absent from the other dark personality traits.
The researchers hope that these new findings will help to broaden people's view of sadism as an aspect of personality that manifests in everyday life, helping to dispel the notion that sadism is limited to sexual deviants and criminals.
Buckels and colleagues are continuing to investigate everyday sadism, including its role in online trolling behavior.
"Trolling culture is unique in that it explicitly celebrates sadistic pleasure, or 'lulz,'" says Buckels. "It is, perhaps, not surprising then that sadists gravitate toward those activities."
And they're also exploring vicarious forms of sadism, such as enjoying cruelty in movies, video games, and sports.
The researchers believe their findings have the potential to inform research and policy on domestic abuse, bullying, animal abuse, and cases of military and police brutality.
"It is such situations that sadistic individuals may exploit for personal pleasure," says Buckels. "Denying the dark side of personality will not help when managing people in these contexts."https://www.sott.net/article/266289-Dark-Tetrad-of-personality-traits-Everyday-sadists-take-pleasure-in-others-pain
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by aben 8/10/2016, 21:23
trol je nišće slično kako fašizam, difamacija. uvika mi je bilo jasno čemu optužba za fašizam služi, al to s trolovima mi je dugo promicalo jer je totalno glupo. mislin, i to s fašizmun je glupo, ali baren imo smisla- tipa "tvoja stajališta ću izbjegavati jer smatram ona moru dovesti do novog hitlera na vlosti". ali ti isti ljudi na internetu postanu toliko osjetljivi na drukčija mišljenja da patu, oni podnosu suffering. odotle je moli korok do smišljanja mentalnih bolesti iako je jasno da bi mentalne poremećaje tribalo utvrditi upravo tratinčicama.Triny wrote:Mene zanima.
Prema istraživanjima internet trolovi su psihopate , narcisoidni su, makjiavelisti i sadisti.
An Internet troll is someone who comes into a discussion and posts comments designed to upset or disrupt the conversation. Often, in fact, it seems like there is no real purpose behind their comments except to upset everyone else involved. Trolls will lie, exaggerate, and offend to get a response.
The next time you encounter a troll online, remember:
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[*]These trolls are some truly difficult people.
[*]It is your suffering that brings them pleasure, so the best thing you can do is ignore them.
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by Trinity 8/10/2016, 21:54
trol je nišće slično kako fašizam, difamacija. uvika mi je bilo jasno čemu optužba za fašizam služi, al to s trolovima mi je dugo promicalo jer je totalno glupo. mislin, i to s fašizmun je glupo, ali baren imo smisla- tipa "tvoja stajališta ću izbjegavati jer smatram ona moru dovesti do novog hitlera na vlosti". ali ti isti ljudi na internetu postanu toliko osjetljivi na drukčija mišljenja da patu, oni podnosu suffering. odotle je moli korok do smišljanja mentalnih bolesti iako je jasno da bi mentalne poremećaje tribalo utvrditi upravo tratinčicama.
Ajde da si priznao zašto često upotrebljavaš fašizam.:)
A mentalne se bolesti utvrđuju i iMRI slikama, ako nisi znao.
Ajde da si priznao zašto često upotrebljavaš fašizam.:)
A mentalne se bolesti utvrđuju i iMRI slikama, ako nisi znao.
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by aben 8/10/2016, 21:59
Triny wrote: trol je nišće slično kako fašizam, difamacija. uvika mi je bilo jasno čemu optužba za fašizam služi, al to s trolovima mi je dugo promicalo jer je totalno glupo. mislin, i to s fašizmun je glupo, ali baren imo smisla- tipa "tvoja stajališta ću izbjegavati jer smatram ona moru dovesti do novog hitlera na vlosti". ali ti isti ljudi na internetu postanu toliko osjetljivi na drukčija mišljenja da patu, oni podnosu suffering. odotle je moli korok do smišljanja mentalnih bolesti iako je jasno da bi mentalne poremećaje tribalo utvrditi upravo tratinčicama.
Ajde da si priznao zašto često upotrebljavaš fašizam.:)
A mentalne se bolesti utvrđuju i iMRI slikama, ako nisi znao.
kako misliš prizno, pa to ni tajna. moja sekta je hijacked fašizam potpuno otvoreno i javno. mislim da rečeničnon konstrukcijom "priznao si" pokušavaš izazvati reakciju kod mene i omesti naš razgovor. osim ča pretjeruješ, čini se i da nemo neke poante u tvon komentaru
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by aben 8/10/2016, 22:28
ne bi bi dobar da ni istinit, bi bi promašen:)Triny wrote:ha ha ha...dobar pokušaj...
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by Guest 9/10/2016, 09:37
Osim zakonskih, postoje i pravila lijepog ponašanja :D
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by Guest 9/10/2016, 12:56
Ti koji se znaju lijepo ponasati spadaju u kategoriju "sofisticiranih", ali ipak trollova. Takvi su najtoksicniji. Ne mogu koristiti osjecajnike s moba.
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by Trinity 9/10/2016, 16:38
Bingo!aben wrote:ne bi bi dobar da ni istinit, bi bi promašen:)Triny wrote:ha ha ha...dobar pokušaj...
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by Guest 9/10/2016, 17:02
kic wrote:bitna je timesova ocjena 'mi ne mrzimo, oni mrze' i to je to? Milovu izjavu i dapace argumentaciju necemo uzeti u obzir? x) presuda je donesena bez covjeka, jako covjecno..
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/09/19/milo-destroy-alt-right-speech/
Milo je poduzetnik, urednik i novinar na Breitbart News. Tam bez cenzure moze lajat kaj hoce. A sto se "presude" tice, njegova covjecnost vise je nego upitna.
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Re: The Age of Trolls
by kic 9/10/2016, 17:40
dudette wrote:kic wrote:bitna je timesova ocjena 'mi ne mrzimo, oni mrze' i to je to? Milovu izjavu i dapace argumentaciju necemo uzeti u obzir? x) presuda je donesena bez covjeka, jako covjecno..
http://www.breitbart.com/milo/2016/09/19/milo-destroy-alt-right-speech/
Milo je poduzetnik, urednik i novinar na Breitbart News. Tam bez cenzure moze lajat kaj hoce. A sto se "presude" tice, njegova covjecnost vise je nego upitna.
Slijedom toga, on vjeruje maskama za koje misli da su zapravo naše stvarno ja, a koje se sputano društvenim pritiskom i normama oslobađa (tek) u virtuali.
napisala ti, na temi staged identities malo nize..
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